Perhaps this is off topic but I don't know where else to post it.
Recently some washing 'powders' have contained a perfume which I find
offensive. These perfumes appear to be totally resistent to being rinsed
out. I am now reluctant to wear almost any of my clothes.
Has anyone else noticed this. More to the point, does anyone know how to
remove this offensive odour?
Rinse them through with tomato juice.
In the Canadian wilds motorists always carry catering packs of Tomato juice
with them, its the only stuff that removes the smell of skunk after you run
I googled that trisodium phosphate is used to remove the diesel smell from
clothes both by sailers and oil rig workers. It is very bad for the environment
so is no longer used in washing powders, but is the most powerful cleaner
around. I don't know
if this would work or not, but you could try ammonia in a wash as well.
P.S. one can find trisodium phosphate in Lucky Charms "magically delicious"
Using a spot of diesel fuel instead of rinse aid would achieve the
desired effect but perhaps not in the way you want :-)
You could try unscented washing powder (eg
and I believe both Tide and Persil produce unscented versions of some
of their powders.
However if you are not using a fabric softener any scent in the
detergent should really be gone by the final rinse, and certainly
after drying - if it is noticeable I'd suggest you are using too much
detergent and it isn't being fully rinsed out.
So one might think. However, multiple rinses, washes with no detergent, and
so on, have failed to remove the odour. The possibility that I have become
more sensitive is questionable because clothes which have not been washed so
recently have no offensive odour, as do new clothes, which smell of nothing
in particular apart from the odour which I would expect the fabric to
I would accept as possible, if improbable, the hypothesis that some new
residue is not detectable by most people, but that I possess an exceptional
sensitivity to it. That is partly what I am trying to find out. Since I am
unlikely to be unique, if such a substance, noxious to a proportion of the
population, is being adsorbed irreversibly strongly onto the clothes,
perhaps there is a case for damages in law.
I switched from persil to ecover a while back. Recently I had the
unfortunate circumstance where I ran out of ecover, and had to go back
to the last dregs of persil. The perfume that lingered afterwards made
me sneeze constantly, I gave up and re-washed everything I could find in
ecover again after it had been persilled.
Ecover has a slight fragrance in the detergent but hardly any remains.
There's a slightly stronger fragrance if you use the softner, but still
much much less powerful than those terrible persil/ariel/etc brands.
Very odd, in the interests of science I've just been investigating
the output of the washing machine, things which have had fabric
conditioner in the wash obviously have quite a marked smell. Those
which have not however are virtually odour free when wet and
completely odour free (as far as I can tell) when dry. That's using
Kirkland powder from Costco.
I use washing-up-liquid. When I use a laundrette I make sure the
residue in the soap box goes into the first (prewash) cycle. I use the
cold water setting and the shortest cycle. Soiled stuff might get to
go around 2 or 3 times but they come out clean.
I buy the cheapest thick detergent going and put it in old Fairy or
whatever bottles and add a few drops of Zoflora disinfectant with an
ear-drop pippete. All my washing is thus done with all the detergent
dissolved and washed out by the end of the cycle. It started out as a
convenience then I realised that powder soap, or whatever it is, just
doesn't dissolve effectively at low temps.
I'd always find a machine with half a cup or more after use still in
the soap box. The thing is, you only need a very small squirt of
washing up liquid, something like 3 or 4 teaspoons full in my own
machine more -obviously, in the larger, laundrette ones. I think
between 5 and 3 second squirts would do the washing a workman can
produce in a fortnight.
As an aside; I think that if you use real soap like Lux or some such,
the first cycle should not have any added as the salt in your sweat
makes the whole job worse. I believe that the fat in the soap is
brought out of solution and subsequent cycles have to work on that
too. Detergents seem to hold their act together better.
I don't think it's meant to dissolve. There's a lot of aggregate in washing
powder whose job presumably is to throw the stuff doing the work around the
drum. Foaming detergents are not ideal for washing machines. I can remember
as a kid seeing the local launderette waist deep in the stuff after a
machine had broken down.
I think that adding some rubber balls or such like would do a better
agitating job than gritty powders. Good old fashioned stone rubbing in
the river having passed my generation by and not willing to risk
adding a couple of half-bricks, I think I'll just keep it simple.
As for the foaming laundry; the damage was done by the foam. Too much
detergent backs up in the pipes and vents and buggers the mechanism.
With a detergent you just need enough to allow the water to wet the
soiled garment. It helps the water to penetrate as much as it acts as
Soap reacts with the greases in the the clothing to help dissolve it.
You need far more soap to wash cloth than you do with detergent.
That's a marketing ploy with the detergent companies. They tell you to
put too much in. Laundrettes usually give the opposite advice.
Ahhh ... another sufferer! I am not alone then.
I too am very sensitive to aspartame/nutrisweet, although I can tolerate
It is very difficult to find soft drinks these days that are purely
sweetened by natural products such as sucrose/fructose, and not polluted by
You have my sympathy, that stuff is almost ubiquitous in processed
foods. Not that I buy into the anti aspartame camp at all. It would be
interesting to double graph the rise of artificial sweeteners and
obesity levels in Western society......
Interestingly a recent article in the Guardian <http://tinyurl.com/l8re
reports research showing the real secret to the French diet, high in
butter and other saturates yet with stuff all heart disease may not be
red wine. Portions are significantly smaller in France than in the US
for similar establishments. So the trick is not to change the diet, just
School of Life Sciences, University of Dundee, Scotland
Ther ability to detect the somewhat almondy smell of cyanide seems to be an
My husband and I both find the aspartame aftertaste extremely unpleasant.
One of the treats of my childhood, when I was ill, was steamy hot
Robinson's lemon barley water - it is now made with artificial sweeteners,
and is no longer pleasantly soothing.
This, I suspect, is part of the problem. Despite the fact that most things
are purer and safer than they have ever been in living memory, people seem
to want to have everything scented. No doubt this desire is fed by the
makers of scent, possibly even created by them.
However, despite all the interesting contributions, for which many thanks, I
still have not heard as to what has been added (or taken away) to the new
powders/tablets, or as to how the residual scent can be removed :-(
I think it's Surcare. I too use this (or rather SWMBO does). I seemed to have
(fairly recently) developed a nasty allergy to some washing powders whereby
if I touch wet laundry, after a little while the skin on my hands dries up
and starts to peel off. Also if I wear a shirt that hasn't aired for long
enough (however long that might be) then the skin on my arms dries up too,
although it doesn't peel.
By using Surcare powder and conditioned this all went away, so I can only assume
it's got something to do with the enzymes or fragrance?
Again, I suffer with these machines. They make me gag.
Yes, I too have found SurCare, but it has yet to be tested by my wife. It
is an amazing fact that my local Sainsbury's which has recently introduced
so many new lines into the same space that even chips run out if more than 3
people buy a packet (well, you know what I mean) has devoted a whole gangway
to laundry products of which 90%+ are made by Proctor and Gamble. No wonder
Sainsbury's shares and market share is headed South. P&G must be amongst
the most unacceptable faces of capitalism.
"Will Cooke" <will firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message
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