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Thank you David, that was most informative. And a nice bit of
reading for me to do next time I have a spare hour or two.
Let me clarify my position. I'm not pro fluoridation, neither am
I anti it. I am very much anti scare-mongering conspiracists.
There is a certain group of people who will happily jump on the
'toxic crusade' bandwagon at any given opportunity. Let's not
forget that chlorine was labeled 'the devil's element' by a
certain environmental group not so long ago.
Undubtedly a return to a diet consisting of meat, nuts, and vegetables
with zero starch or sugar in it would improve all our teeth, not top
mention fixng obesity as a problem forever. In the meantime, fluoride on
the evidence, does something that stops kids teeth rotting. Whatever the
If you don't like it, buy bottled water and poison yourself with that
Its a function of age, people my age can remember friends and relatives
dying of bronchitis, being crippled by polio, dying of scarlet fever,
of babies born deformed by mothers who cauight german measles, and
indeed catching it - and mumps, and ordinary measles, ourselves. And
having our teeth ripped to pieces by NHS dentists on a rate for the job,
who forebore using expensive anaesthetic. Who had at least 4-6 cases of
food poisoning a year, befor refrigerators existed.
And who still managed to survive in asbestos roofed houses heated by
asbestos lined stoves drinking out of lead line water fountains and
breathing lead filled petrol fumes. AND be healthy enough with it, and
we ain't dead yet.
And really came to appreciate things like MMR, polio jabs, TB jabs,
smallpox vaccinations, tetanus vaccinations, chlorine in the water, and
fluoride, and many many other things. Including food hygiene standards,
refrigerators, central heating and the like.
Chrsut, today there is probably some lobby group or other lobbying for
sandals, on the grounds that otherwise their human rights will be
violated by ingrowing toenails.
You can just never tell with governments. Depends on who has who's ear at
an opportune moment.
Look at the current Part P proposals as a good example.
Personally, I'm not particularly worried about the toxicity of
flouridation - as others have pointed out there are natural occurences of
flouridated water and no statistical evidence about adverse effects.
This isn't similar to chlorination of the water supply - that is a treatment
to prevent water-distributed diseases. This is mass medication via the
water supply, and that is a very slippery slope to go down.
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Not half as slippery as mass deception, and scaremongering, which have
been going on for years with no end or decrease in sight.
I think the biggest joke of all was whaen dear old Edwina Curry got
sacked for telling the unplatable truth - that free range eggs are
liberally dosed with slamonella to a far higher level than 'factory farmed' ones.
A statement that my ageing mother, who grew up on a farm and won't
ever touch an egg since, will support..
Or polar bear liver. Overdose of vitamin D or something. Deadly.
Of course without vitamin D you die as well.
Nature has seen fit to provide us with lots of natural hazards. As well
as naturally fluoridated water. Observations that teeth decay was less
in these areas, and that no one died perceptibly younger, or suffered
ill effects like trying to take over the world (Austrian Invincible
Dictator Syndrome) was what led to the decision to put teeny amounts in
Who was it calculated that potatoes would not pass current FDA
screening? Too much arsenic or summat.
Martin is correct. Activated carbon holds onto some compounds well and others
weakly. When it gets heavily loaded the strongly held compounds start pushing
the weakly attracted compounds off. Fortunately most toxic compounds are
strongly attracted but there are possible exceptions which is why manufacturers
cover their backs by recommending frequent renewal.
Hi, I live in Scotland and do not use a filter and drink the water straight
from the tap but when I visit my son in Newbury his water tastes terrible
straight from the tap so I bought a filter jug and it does make a
difference. I'm trying to persuade him to fit a filter for his water but he
drinks bottled water(comes in brown bottles or cans) and since he lives
alone he does not think the expense is justified.
Chilling water in a bottle in the fridge is a surprisingly effective method
for removing unpleasant tastes as well.
I no longer bother with filters and the like. I drink bottled water, but
that's mostly carbonated stuff and it does have a pleasant flavour of it's
email me at
richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk
Nope, not where I am. I can tell from the smell and the taste straight
away if it's filtered water or not. Non-filtered water is disgusting
here (north downs hills, surrey). Equally hard (if not harder) water in
cambridge tastes fine straight out the tap.
I've done a 'blind' test (with help) and nailed the unfiltered straight
away. Disgusting stuff.
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