I'm sorry - I just take the view that someone moaning about some marks coming off when the solution is to get out a pen as rather pathetic and helpless.
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Built-in oven woes
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The legal system feels otherwise.
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Please explain to me how.
This is not a matter of failing a PAT or EICR.
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The fact that someone would even consider the "legal system" as a sensible solution to this kind of problem is in itself rather sad.
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Safety issues to do with the oven getting too hot due to missing markings a nd burning food causing smoke and someone falls down the stairs due to redu ced visibility ? Its a long shot I agree. But you never know what insurance companies would use to not pay out ! Simon.
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Well, I don't disagree lack of marks are annoying - but given the oven almost certainly has neons to show it is on or off (the most significant safety hazard) and the remedy is trivial, it seems sad that the tenant just cannot get on with it.
Anyway, bit of a sidetrack as the OP is the landlord and is willing to fix it - but I'm with him that paying 200 odd for a new oven is silly, if that is what the tenant wanted (I've lost track there).
If he did replace the oven, someone's going to come along and wipe the numbers off again sooner or later.
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Given ovens do tend to need cleaning, a bit silly to have such markings that can be wiped off?
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in news:mebaqs$cn9$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:
I had the same problem onse with a Tricity oven. I was appalled by how easily the markings wiped off with normal kitchen cleaners. Got a spare and used to use a Sharpie pen to copy the markings over. I have sympathy with the tennant I am afraid.
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@davenoise.co.uk:
"Not fit for Purpose" They should be moulded or engraved. Chase the manufacturer.
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I've seen it before like Andrew on various appliances - some legends are very weakly printed.
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I am in a similar position; I let one property and I am a good landlord. In such a situation I would replace the cooker with a new one.
The cost is not great (on the grand scheme of things) and it is tax-deductible from the rental income (AFAIK).
Robert
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/Given ovens do tend to need cleaning, a bit silly to have such markings that can be wiped off?/q
Anyone tasked with cleaning greasy ovens will be using caustic chemicals, also known for their paint stripping properties...
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Jim K
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A sensible person! Applause.
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Basic consumer law.
Sure.
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I didn't say anything about it being a sensible solution, JUST that that is what it would have to say about that if it ever got involved.
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That's too vague to be construed as an answer.
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But if all it requires is a new knob which has the markings on it, it isn't silly if one is available and a reasonable price.
If that was true we'd see lots asking about how to deal with that and we don?t.
Mine has a sheet of glass with all the marks on it and the marks are on the back of the glass so they can't be removed by cleaning.
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Saved me writing exactly that suggestion. :-)
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and burning food causing smoke and someone falls down the stairs due to re duced visibility ? Its a long shot I agree. But you never know what insuran ce companies would use to not pay out !
Its not a question of what unlikely scenario might happen, but of what a te nant can claim happened.
NT