back to wall bidet

[blackbat]

I am going to fit a *floor standing* back to wall close coupled toilet and bidet in a small cloakroom.

Probably these:-

I would like to avoid fitting false walls as is normal, instead feeding the pipes up through the floor.

I have been to see the toilet and think I can fit that OK with a flexi pan connector like this:-

waste on the bidet is possibly more of a problem due to restricted space. Has anyone successfully fitted one of these with a bottle trap and some kind of flexible 40mm waste pipe that allows all connections to be made & tested and then pushed back against the wall?

Alternatively has anyone seen similar modern designs that have an open at the back design?

[Frank Erskine]

Does anybody actually _use_ a bidet? I know a lot of people that have these things, but none of them ever use (or admit to using) 'em :-)

I have the impression that they are just a "must have" accessory.

[blackbat]

I've got two in the house and I admit to using 'em. Sometimes at the same time.

[Frank Erskine]

What - one for each cheek? :-)

And you're going to add a third one? In a 'small' cloakroom?

I'm assuming you're in the South East of England where there's a serious shortage of water. Get real...

[Christian McArdle]

Remember that the trap for the bidet needs a 32mm diameter trap with a 75mm seal. Check that any proposed trap has these dimensions.

You may find it easier to place the trap somewhat remotely (within reason, as the trap must be "directly" after the appliance, so you can't put it too far away). It must also be accessible.

Christian.

[blackbat]

No - replacing one in a different position, so I'll still have two. One upstairs & one downstairs.

Seriously, a bidet is not something I would have put in but I inherited one when I moved into this house and I do really recommend them. That's as much detail as I'm willing to go into...

[blackbat]

Hmmm, maybe under the floorboards, directly underneath the bidet....

[auctions]

The back to the wall toilet needs a concealed cistern, so you have to have a false wall, or it won't flush! If the trap for the bidet will be inaccessible, use a hepVo valve instead - they don't need taking apart to clear blockages. You can then use flexi pipe if you need to - BES do a decent one with a smooth inner surface. I'd only use flexi pipes with smooth insides (including the flexi soil pipe), as you don't get stuff hanging around stuck to the ridges.

A

[Mary Fisher]

I've often wondered that. We don't have one but some neighbours do. One had to have one because she couldn't buy her chosen bathroom suite without it. She has a separate toilet but there's no room there for a bidet so it has to go in the bathroom.

Mary

[Owain]

Yebbut what for?

Owain

[blackbat]

The ones that I'm interested in are close coupled, the cistern isn't hidden - like this:-

to install with a false wall admittedly but apparently possible to feed from underneath with a struggle.

The hepVo looks interesting, gotta admit I'd not seen them before. Can they fit straight under the bidet in the same way as a bottle trap?

[blackbat]

Don't care - still want one.

[blackbat]

It *was* a joke.

[auctions]

Yes - they attach straight to the waste pointing down , or using a knuckle bend, can go horizontally. I'd definitely use one for his.

The wc you're looking at is not a btw then!

Fitting both is easy enough - use rigid pipe, cut, position and support carefully, then push it all together.

A

[blackbat]

Tis too ;-P BTW but not wall mounted. Nothing open at the bottom so no pipes show. You gotta connect up using flexis, test for leaks whilst away from the wall then push it back.

Ta for the replies

[Andy Hall]

Yes. They are very effective both in this type of situation and in others where one doesn't want pipework showing.

[Mary Fisher]

LOL! I wasn't trying to persuade you - it was an opinion, not a dictat :-)

Mary

[Will I am]

replying to blackbat, Will I am wrote: Why go to the expense and space when all you have to do is pull the flush then wash your self in the toilet pan* *