Are steel security cables choppable?

[Mike Barnes]

It's reasonable to expect care towards members of the emergency services who, for a variety of reasons, might be on your premises.

[Skipweasel]

You have a duty of care towards anyone on your premises. And for good reason - were it otherwise it would be tantamount to saying that we have corporal punishment (or even capital punishment) for burglary.

You might /want/ to do the blighters in, but it ain't allowed. For one thing, you'd have to ber certain that anyone doing what you assume is wrong is actually doing wrong.

We had a kid jump over the back fence in our old house in Rayner's Lane. He chose the wrong fence - landed in the 6' strip of blackberries we kept to deter people from jumping over the fence. As it happens he was fleeing from a bunch other kids who were intent on kicking the shit out of him - only they saw the brambles and he didn't.

While I was picking thorns out of him they came round the front and were met by the police coming the other way.

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Jilly saying something like:

Cordless angle-grinder, easy-peasy.

[geoff]

blade

A strong chain just means that they go for the next weakest link

Get a PIR and a dozen sound bombs

- it just makes life very unpleasant to be in the vicinity when they go off, they get "inside" your head

[Andy Dingley]

My good bike was about half what my Rangerover cost, which is still more than I've paid for any other car.

Fortunately both times that someone has tried to nick it (whilst riding, although coming home through town rather than off-road) the U lock stopped them.

[andrew]

Yes, I use two at work.

it does

Not that I can see

It is

Settable

Moderate

It can be set to record 20 sec video or a series of jpegs. There does seem quite some variation in sensitivity between the two units, also there is ~1 second delay between sensing and recording, which is why a little while back I asked about means to externally trigger the pir, without delving into the electronics.

AJH

[Jethro]

Warning signs are *not* a defence against a claim of negligence - what if the trespasser couldn't read them ? (which is what the high court ruled, years ago).

[John MacLeod]

Such deterrents are usually more effective than most things. Sea buckthorn performs most impressively :-)

John

[Dave Liquorice]

Pictogram?

Surely one only has to take "reasonable" steps to warn trespassers?

[Mike Barnes]

Thanks - all useful stuff.

With regard to the override do you know if the lamp is switched by a relay or electronically? A relay normally makes a click as it switches. I'd feel happier hacking into a relay-driven circuit than an electronically driven one.

[andrew]

I don't think the logic that drives the sensor is very rigorous. It is possible to trigger the camera and not the light. This shows because a green led indicates when it is recording, this is silent. There is an audible click when the light comes on and I sense this is after the green led is lit on the occasions when both trigger

AJH