I'm trying to figure out the best path, other than drilling and the time consuming process of fishing/drilling through floors, to get a RG6 cable and Cat5e cable from my attic to my basement.
I have heard that you can run plenium Cat5 down environmental vents without any issues. The sewer vent runs from the attic to the basement and is the only direct path I can see. The pipe is 2" and is used for my sump pump in the basement. I was going to cut the pipe and use a 45 degree capped splitter for the wires in the basement to avoid drilling ugly holes directly in the pipe.
Is this NOT a good idea? Any restrictions on if I can do this with RG6 or Cat5E?
I'm in Georgia, if that helps any in regards to code.
One thing to try first, (I can't answer your question directly as I don't know) -- Some of my plumbing pipes have enough room around them to trop a line down the outside of them, between the pipe and the floors they penetrate. We used a chain tied to the end of fishin line as a weight to drop straight down through the holes. It took a few shots, but we got it.
if you have a pipe in straight line from bottom to top of the building,then you don't have to drill anything...
your pipe is round,and much of the time the guys make a square hole to let pass from floor to floor,with a bit of patient and a good fish (1/4 inch) you can pass from top to bottom then pull the wire up,wait till its a bit less hot in the attic to try it..
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DONT run any cables inside sewer lines, the wiring entry exit spots can leak and explosive gasses get in your home. from say a natural gas leak on the street or if a idiot dumps gasoline down a sewer.........
run wires along side sewer or other lines, in a closet, behind kitchen cabinets, up a fake downspout outside home, had a friend who ran conduit right along a downspout, it was invisible.
One time I had a sewer line clog which required running a Roto-Rooter down the vent pipe on the roof to clear. The plumber told me it was not that unusual to have to resort to this entry point.
Tony, you said the vent is used for your sump pump. Are you certain that's its only use? Here in Colorado sump pumps are required to discharge to daylight and may not be connected to the sewer. Is yours connected to the sewer, or does it discharge to daylight?
If a 1/4" hole filled with wire and silicone in a vent pipe is going to allow explosive gasses into your home or gasoline fumes from the guy down the block who is always putting a gallon or two of gas down his sewer...the problem won't be at the little hole.
Now if you are always worried about the natural gas leak on the street causing gas to go in the roof vent, down into the house and into the little hole filled with silicone.... I would never open my windows... LOL
I think it comes from his sump pit. In some area it is only used as a vent for radon not for actual water discharge. The water line will go out of the side of the house.
They don't worry about guy down the street with gasoline. The methane and other toxic gases formed naturally are plenty enough to cause problems. Poof.
Wireless hardware is more complex, and so less reliable. It is harder to set up computers and other devices. Range is limited (and reception can be intermittent and subject to interference), but still is likely to provide physical access when it's not wanted (security vulnerabilities) so requires directional setup (WPA and such), which increases setup time and decreases available bandwidth.
Just piggybacking on the last posted message: The OP hasn't responded to any of these messages, so he apparently doesn't care. My suggestion for anyone who does care, is that vinyl siding is a great conduit for cable of any kind. I have run cat5 through vinyl siding. Just drill two holes in the sheetrock and sheathing, one at the source of the cable and the other at the destination, run the cable under the siding after unzipping the siding panel, down or up at the corner channels if necessary, and into the destination room. Use boxes with connectors for the source and destination holes for a neater connection.
That is not correct, friend. Plenum cable is allowed to be used in plenum air spaces. These are usually found in the area above a drop ceiling in office complexes. That's about the only place where plenum cable is allowed other than as normal in-wall wiring. It can't be run in air ducts or plumbing pipes, including your vent stack.
As others have already mentioned, there may be enough space between the pipe and the cut-out area where it passes through the floor. If the home is older the cut-out is usually square, leaving lots of space to fish a cable. Newer construction is often tighter since the plumbers use hole saws to cut s snugger opening and it may even be fire-caulked.
Other places where you may find an open chase include the various "wet walls" which have pipes for toilets, siomks and bathrooms. Sometimes a home will have one closet located above another. If you're lucky enough to have that layout you can easily open the wall inside an upstairs closet, drill down into the one below and so forth to reach the basement. A small reach hole inside the closet wall can be covered with a single-gang plate, providing easy access should you ever need to make changes. Accessing the top of the wall from an unfinished attic is a snap.
At times when installing in multi-story homes I've deliberately selected a place low on a hallway wall, directly outside the master bedroom for a flush mounted siren speaker. Installing a keypad in the bedroom side of the wall, several feet above the speaker makes it easy to fish from the attic down. Another speaker goes in the wall on the first floor, just above the baseboard. This arrangement makes it easy to reach into the wall with a drill and open a 3/4" hole from attic to basement. Note that this works best if the wall is load-bearing since the wall on the upper floor will be directly above the one below.
There are numerous ways to run new cable in existing homes. Sometimes you just need to get a little creative in your planning but with a little patience and a modicum of tool skills it's not difficult.
Regards, Robert L Bass Bass Home Electronics DIY Alarm and Home Automation Store
What does code say about this? You're talking about running wires essentially externally. That and I'd worry about the long term issues with something else going through the siding at a later date. Why introduce a headache for the next homeowner when they discover someone put wires improperly underneath the siding? That and fire code issues with the jacket material catching fire and acting as a fuse taking the fire to other areas it might not otherwise.
No, don't half-ass it with something like this. It's your HOME, the largest investment you're likely to make in your life. Don't short-change it by doing something like this.
You're allowed to run coax and cat-5 right up the side of the house OUTSIDE the siding if you want to, it's just ugly as hell. The only thing I'd add is, seal the penetrations with caulk or foam to limit wind and insect penetration.
Neither one is a big deal for 99.44% of home systems, though I see a lot of open networks around. I have mine configured for encryption, only listen to my laptops' MACs, and doesn't broadcast its SSID. 54Mbps is faster than my cable modem. Good 'nuff.
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