Came home today to find a soggy bathroom. When I flush the toilet,
there's a small spout of water coming from one of the bolts. Then
water starts backing up into the bath tub from the tub's drain. From
reading this newsgroup I see that the leaking toilet could hopefully be
repaired by either new washers around the bolts or the large opening
beneath the toilet. But does the water backing up in the tub indicate
a more serious problem? I don't understand the correlation between a
leaking toilet and the tub backing up. :/
I'm on a sewer system. Would a sewer blockage cause the leak at the
We've been having heavy rainfall the past couple of weeks, and folks
around the neighborhood have been reporting water problems, like brown
water coming from the spigots. Could these issues have anything to do
with my problem?
normally, but if the outlet is blocked, it can't handle the pressure
will leak. <
Doug and Joseph, thanks for the clarification. That makes sense to me.
My next question is does the leaking indicate that the seals need to be
replaced? Once I snake the line, should I replace the seals, or are
they functioning within normal parameters? (I've never had problems
with them before.)
I hope you're not considering one of those tiny hand held things. GFL.
You're likely heading to a 15 ft pile of manure with a toothpick when what
you really need is someone else and a big shovel.
I'd personally settle for nothing less than the entire drain snaked out to
the street. We're talking pull the toilet off, snake down to the exit of
the house, then open your sewer line access and cut all the way to the main.
2-300 bucks. You'll be wasting your time with some toy from Home Depot.
Backing up into your bathtub isn't because of some big turd - it's likely
much more serious - tree roots, decades of bacon grease, whatever. Someone
looking for info on "seals" for their toilet bolts just isn't likely to get
this done right on their own.
Nate, you may well be right. But the problem appears to be limited to
the one toilet -- the shower isn't clogged, nor is the other toilet,
nor are any of the other drains in the house. This gives me a little
hope that it's a problem with this one toilet, not the entire sewer
line. And spending $9 on a snake rental as a first line of action
instead of $200 - $300 to call out a plumber at least seems worth a
Of course it could - if the water can't flow out through the drain, it has to
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
Yes. The seal where the toilet fits is not that tight. It works find
normally, but if the outlet is blocked, it can't handle the pressure and
You have exactly what would be expected from a sewer blockage.
No. It could have something to do with the rain as it may be causing
problems with the water supply, but that is uncertain.
On 28 Mar 2005 09:14:08 -0800, email@example.com wrote:
I agree with you Fleemo. Except I'd get the $15 rig as it is twice
as long and bigger guage. And you can amortize the cost over several
decades so your cost for this job is only $1.23.
But if you do call a plumber and pay the $300 make sure you ask for a
video tape of your sewer line blockage. Most respectable plumbers
charge you the full cost of the video equipment even though it has
been paid for a thousnd times over by other suckers/homeowners.
You have a blockage affecting the shower and the toilet. Unlikely that you
will get it with your snake. You probably need a plumber. Same thing
happened to a friend. Turned out it was a flushable feminine tampon. He
called the company and complained and they reimbursed him for the plumbers
The toilet bolts have nothing to do with stopping water. They're there
to keep the toilet secured and prevent rocking when you're really
working the bowl. :)
experiencing the problem muddies the water a bit. There are companies
that more or less specialize in clearing blockages. Around here it's a
flat fee of $50.
You'll definitley want to replace the $3 wax toilet ring. Now that the
seal has been compromised any water seepage will start eating your
subfloor and framing and you'll be in for a much bigger repair down the
road. If you're not comfortable removing the bowl and replacing the
ring, I don't see that you have a choice but to call your friendly
You haven't said anything interesting in your post. Showers, sinks, etc,
don't have much of a flow compared to a toilet or a washing machine. If
this toilet you're having problems with is closer to where your sewer pipe
exits the house (i.e. downstairs, street side of house, etc), then you can
not yet rule out roots or other serious problems far down your pipe.
I'd at least drop 50 bucks and rent a 100 foot, 1/2" snake, then surf the
internet to learn how to remove your toilet. For 9 bucks you are clearly
looking at something that almost certainly will not solve the problem you
are describing no matter its cause or location. After you've blown 100
bucks on 2 rentals because you're clueless and twice washed all the sewage
spray off your walls that a real snake produces, 2-300 bucks might start to
seem pretty cheap. I've seen quotes as low as 125 around here to snake out
a sewer. Good luck.
there had been some very heavy rains recently. Is the City sewer a
combined (storm and sanitary) system? If so, check with your neighbors
whether they have any problems like yours. It is possible that all the rain
caused the city sewer to back up.
Well, that wasn't so bad. The only difficulty I had was removing the
old bolts that were so corroded they were mere lumps of metal. From
there on it was a snap.
A sincere thank you to those who actually contributed useful
information. It came in handy and I truly appreciate your input.
A newsgroup is a lot like the pipe I just cleared -- it works great if
you can just get past all the crap.
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