I replaced the entire valve assembly and the flapper.
Still, the toilet dirt lines appear, as can be viewed on the pix.
What should I do next?
Except possibly the flapper. 30 years ago, I bought "1000 Flushes"
for each toilet, and within two weeks, I had lots of black streaks down
the sides of all 3 of them.
I sent the flappers and the boxes that 1000 came in to the manufacture
and they refunded the 1000's and paid for new flappers, and postage.
But I've still never used the product again.
There are some special products, like for when the faucet drips on the
sink all the time, and the water evaporates leaving some mineral.
When one lets urine sit in the toilet too much, acidic toilet bowl
cleaner may be needed. But that's not the problem here, because that
problem is no higher than the water line.
On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:55:47 PM UTC-6, email@example.com wro
ml I replaced the entire valve assembly and the flapper. Still, the toilet
dirt lines appear, as can be viewed on the pix. What should I do next? tia
Shut the water off, flush the toilet and hold the hadle down until thewater
in the tank is down to the level of the flapper. Then pour the strongest
toilet cleaner you can find diretly down the tank outlet. Don't let it tou
ch the flapper mechanism. That hopefully will clean out the passageway tha
t goes around the top of the toilet bowl. Let the cleaner alone for an hou
r or so, and then turn the water back on and flush several times, a lot of
crud should come out of the perimeter rim holes.
On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 20:55:47 -0500, shellyf_DELETE firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
On second t hought, this reminds me of when I had mold on the bottom of
a wall in the basement, below the downspout.
I sprayed bleach on it several times, wondering why it didn't kill the
mold when it was said to do that. Finally I reallized the mold was
dead, but that wasn't going to make the black mold turn white. I had to
Similarly, you need to clean the toilet dirt lines off. All the ways
they gave are probably good. If the dirt comes back, you'll have a
better idea of where it comes from.
Oren is right.
I experimented with all the AHR suggested solutions.
If you dig up my pictures, you'll see a much worse problem,
solved in a few minutes, albeit not without a few safety concerns.
Here is a search term to use in "images.google.com":
"danny d" "toilet bowl" "hydrochloric acid"
Here are a few pictures of the results:
What's not obvious, until you experiment with hydrochloric
acid (HCl), is that the toilet bowl "crud" isn't at all what
we think it is (at first).
It's mineral deposits, covered in crap.
So, while you can bleach it white (with pool chlorine), and
while you can scrape it raw (with Ajax) - the simplest
easiest (not the least dangerous though) way to remove the
crud is simply to run the Oren-Haller Huckleberry procedure.
The exact details are painfully outlined in the aforementioned
thread; but it mainly involved donning safety equipment to then
simply pour a half gallon of the muriatic acid into the tank.
I stand corrected.
Also, I was searching for the word, so I used crud, but, you're
right, that the correct technical term is cooties!
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