This NG is a hoot!

[Todd]

Ask on of those guys with the skinny ties. My grandfather has passed, or I let him tell you. See Moroni's quote below.

19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: ?they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.?

By the way, why the rest of us is all going to hell, including and especially me. (I am quaking in my boots.)

See above

Oh now I have to go wash my mouth out with soap. Just teasing. Was that Dove or Ivory?

There are a lot of nice Mormons out there and Mormons have a lot to be admired. I think you are were the Lord wants you to be.

-T

[Todd]

19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: ?they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.?

Maybe they have found a work around.

[dadiOH]

Who would wonder about $350,000? :)

[dadiOH]

I'd agree with that.

I would add that they also help keep us from killing each other (though with only moderate success) and that they convey considerable power upon those in charge of the manuals. ____________________

I'd agree with that too.

[SteveB]

The one that was in "Casino", and who was on a lot of episodes of of Cops.

Steve

[Stormin Mormon]

Mormons believe in three "degrees of glory" plus outer darkness. Baptism is the key to the highest degree of glory. There are two degrees of glory and outer darkness, which don't need baptism.

If memory serves, this is mentioned in 1 Cor chapter 14, in the new testament. But, not really understood by many churches. Celestial, Terrestrial, and Telestial.

If you define Hell as the same as outer darkness (cast out of God's presence, with weeping and wailing and all that), then few non-Mormons go there.

Perhaps the Department of Motor Vehicles has little to do with Heaven?

[Stormin Mormon]

SM: Yep, that does sound familiar.

SM: You'll be glad to know there are three degrees of glory, which are all better than outer darkness. Few people go to outer darkness.

SM: I think your grand father missed the part about Terrestrial and Telestial.

SM: Be as gentle as a dove, and white as ivory. I'd settle for a bit of baking soda on a tooth brush. Rinse twice.

SM: Thanks, I'll tell him you think so.

[Stormin Mormon]

Some truth to what you write. The baptisms for the dead occur in the temples. I've participated in these, in each of the several roles. They are done not less than one year after the person's death. We believe the ordinance is optional, the deceased may or might not accept. It is very possible that a person might be in the middle kingdom with all his (her) friends and might not want to move up. We don't believe that God forces anyone to be saved or exalted. And we sure try not to force anyone either.

[Todd]

You think?

That is exactly were I and all other "abominations" are headed.

Actually, no. My sister is/was a professed Christian. She choose Christianity over Mormonism, just like me. And that makes both her and me both an "abomination".

Christians only have a heaven and a hell. R. Catholics had a Purgatory and a Limbo for a while, but I do not believe they follow it anymore. (It was something they added to the religion and is not original teaching of the church. R. Catholics can be "deviationists" at times, but they are still my bothers in Christ.)

Folks who God knows, will be with him. No half way. (I except to get a good hosing off. Talk about the supreme guilt trip.)

And no structures or families in heaven: this is Jesus own words. Mormon teaching contradicts Jesus teaching.

He already knows you, even if you don't know him. I hope to have many of a pleasant conversation with you in Heaven. You will probably get tired of me smacking you over the head with a rolled up newspaper though.

When you get tired of all your professing Christian friends going to hell, there are a lot of Christians around would would love to tell you about the faith. Probably won't be able to get them to shut up!

But I think the Lord does have a purpose for you where you are.

-T

[Todd]

Zaky is right about one thing. This newsgroup is a, a, a, oh crap, I forgot again. Who is Zaky again? Is Zaky still in the Navy?

[Guv Bob]

[Stormin Mormon]

SM: The answer to life, the universe and everything is: 42.

SM: Sounds interesting. I have heard that Jews put a little container of scriptures on the door post of entry doors. I think it's called a Mezuzah.

SM: I wonder where dead saints find all the time to read news papers? Do they read print or online?

[Stormin Mormon]

I went to a church dinner last night. They had too much food, and sent food home with people. I scored some oatmeal cookies, and some orange juice.

[The Daring Dufas]

Todd, you and anyone else is always welcome at my church. I took me many years to find a religious organization which didn't preach the fear of any particular deity when you may backslide because you're human and lack the perfection of our God. It's a wonderful feeling to know you're accepted no matter who you are and what others outside the church may think of you. We never push our beliefs on anyone or damn them for being nonbelievers. Our love of our fellow man is extended by our God toward everyone. If you're interested in finding out more about the most inclusive religion of all time, I'm posting a link below. ^__^

TDD

[Todd]

Love micro loans!

[Caulking-Gunn]

Only YOU, at age 12.

[John]

To add to your amusement ...

*plonk*

HTH, John

[Tony Hwang]

+1

[SteveB]

I was told by the missionaries in 1970 that if I did not join the Mormon church, I would not be able go to any form of heaven, and would burn in hell. Now, I understand they no longer preach that, along with hundreds of other things they have changed in their "doctrines" and "prophecies" they have received through the years. So, it therefore fails the test of the bible re: prophecy. If a prophecy is real, it will come to pass, and will not change. They must have some office like 1984 where the forecasts and prophecies are changed yearly. I know that the Book of Mormon has hundreds of versions where changes have been made.

Steve

[The Daring Dufas]

I never plonk or block anyone. There is an old saying, "Know thine enema. Don't let it get up your ass." ^__^

TDD