They dont sell posts!!!!

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I'm planning to build a fence and need fence posts. I went to the POST OFFICE to buy the posts. They said they dont sell posts..... What the fuck..... why are they called the POST OFFICE if they dont sell POSTS?
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Who ever said the Post Office has to be profitable? Are other govt. offices profitable? Hell, no; they suck up our tax $$ to pay for sloppy, inefficient political appointees who **** all over the work of dedicated Civil Service public servants.
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Wrong! (as is usual for the HiggsBozo). The USPS is an independent branch of the US government. It is *supposed* to be self-sustaining. Of course, so is AMTRAK. Remember CONRAIL? All *very* good examples of why the government should not be in health care, or any other area where the private sector can be.
BTW, the USPTO is also self-sustaining.
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He's not wrong. He asked a question.
The answer is that the US post office was made into a corporation-like independent agency in 1971 (under Nixon) as a result of a postal strike.
The idea being that it would run more efficiently that way and require less money.
Of course everyone likes to complain about postal rates and the post office has to create "emergencies" so that Congress will grant them rate increases.
Do they have to make a profit? No, it's worse. They have to do what Congress tells them to do.

The US Post Office has not received US tax dollars since the 1980s.
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:40:19 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@verizon.net wrote:

*SHE* most certainly did not. The sentence may have been followed by a question mark, but it most certainly was a statement.

Exactly where are the billion$ coming from?
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Are you suggesting we use taxes to get the mail delivered?
Sounds socialist to me.
Not to mention some illegal alien might use the US Mail.
:)
Seriously, nothing wrong with setting the postage rate at break even.
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:22:38 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@verizon.net wrote:

Except that there is no "break even" for an organization as inefficient as the USPS. The higher the rates, the lower the volume, until "poof". We're now seeing the "poof" part.
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You mean when we applied right wing ideology to the USPS it didn't automatically become efficient?
Come on, tell me it isn't so.
The USPS hand delivers my mail for under .50 a letter. I'm not complaining, but you are entitled if you think that's too much.
The USPS is in the constitution. It may take some doing to get rid of it.
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:07:26 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@verizon.net wrote:

You're nuts if you think there is *anything* right about the USPS.

You're nuts, but you should have known that by now.

Except they're not. They're subsidizing junk and losing $6B a year to unions. If you think it's a well run organization, well, that's a great example of what passes for lefty "thought".

It can get a real trimming. Watch for it.
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On Sep 14, 7:51pm, " snipped-for-privacy@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"

Case in point: Federal employees selecting BC-BS health insurance pay $4800+ out of pocket premiums per year. Postal employees receive the exact same policy for $120 a year thanks to the unions. Until the USPS reigns in the union I'll oppose any increase in rates no matter how small.
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Postal employees who select BC-BS standard family plan pay about $4000 a year. It is possible that the BC-BS low opion may cost as little as $120 a MONTH for SINGLE employees. In general, unionized Postal employees pay about 10% less for health plans compared to other federal workers. Not sure where you got the $120/year figure, but it is cleary wrong.
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Right or wrong, who cares? It is just one part of a compensation package. If you pay less for healthcare, you may get less in other benefits. Unless you look at the entire package, you cannot say if it is a good or bad deal for the employee.
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What is right wing about all the restrictions placed on the post office. The biggest single problem they are having now is Congressionally imposed expenditures for retiree health care, playing with work rules and Congress' meddling in not allowing them to close unprofitable branches in their districts and states. The USPS is a frankenstein's monster that isn't purely governmental, yet not remotely free trade.

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The right wing part is when they changed from a government agency to an "independent" agency.
Being more like an American Corporation was going to cure the inefficiency.

Agreed.
But not with the Frankenstein monster part.
They don't cost taxpayers anything. They hand deliver mail to your doorstep for less than .50 a letter.
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By a radical right wing Democratic Congress in '71.

And then they (the Dem Congress) managed to come up with something that did not even begin to look like an American corp.
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That's the sad part about it being in the Constitution. The founding fathers believed that communication between the new nation's citizens was extremely important. Privatizing the mail will cause us to end up short-changing rural residents much the same way they can't get fast broadband service. It's just not profitable to hook all the outliers into the system. But the US Mail does it, and does a pretty good job of it.
Consider this: Neither UPS nor Fedex will ship something for much under $5. Would you want to pay $5 per piece to mail a letter? I don't. I am happy to pay taxes that keeps all the country's citizens connected to each other and keeps the cost of sending a letter affordable.
Something has to change to keep the service afloat and we'll soon see if people think that Saturday deliver and convenient nearby post offices are something worth paying for. I know I do.
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I disagree. Many things in the Constitution have been eliminated or ignored. We could start with states rights. Then there's the federal government being involved in lots of things not granted to them by the Constitution.
But don't get me started.
I can mail an envelope from my town to the next, about five miles away. It has to go to Atlanta, first, 4,000 miles total. Or sometimes, just to Provo, 700 miles total. Their efficiency experts are all crack heads.
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I may walk across the street for 44¢, but the USPS will carry a letter across the country for that amount. IMO, the PO is a pretty good deal. If they have to raise the price of a stamp a few pennies, I'm in. Would not bother me if they cut out Saturday delivery either.
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Not to forget the most egregious example of government trying to run a business; Mustang Ranch. they went broke tying to sell booze and p****. :)
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Perhaps none of their customers wanted to be "audited".
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