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Shooting someone toilet papering is not protected. It's murder or attempted murder.
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snipped-for-privacy@mucks.net wrote in

"murder" is the WRONGFUL killing of a person.
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And, apparently, not when the government does it. That makes the word "murder" less meaningful than it should be.
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:29:52 -0500, Mark Lloyd

Courts have ruled; for an Agency not to "terminate" the employee, but to only "remove them from their position".
Terminate - was to harsh. It implied the agency would kill the employee ... according to the review board :)
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Jim Yanik wrote:

That implies there are RIGHTFUL killings of a person.
Well, yes there are. In my state (Texas), there are two:
JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE * Execution of prisoner under a lawful warrant * Killing of an enemy in time of war * Self defense or defense of another against several offenses * Criminal mischief during the nighttime * "Yer honor, he needed killin'"
EXCUSABLE HOMICIDE * Act of God or mistake with no showing of negligence or malice, while engaged in a lawful act
Consider a man dressed as a deer in the forest: 1. If the "deer" shoots at you first and you kill him = Justifiable homicide 2. If you think its a real deer and shoot = Excusable homicide
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Kids egging your car when it's dark - would that qualify as criminal mischief?
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Is it illegal?
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Yes. Let's wait and see what HeyBub says, though. Shhhh.....
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do it to a black-owned car or house,and it's a hate crime.
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:29:53 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

Only if the eggs are fertile :-)
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Certainly. As is up-rooting mail boxes, doing wheelies on someone's lawn, putting a burning sack of dog poo on the front porch, soaping screens, or discovering the hot date you scored at the tavern is of the wrong sex.
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So, do you think the law in TX allows you to kill a kid for doing things like that when it's dark?
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There's a lot of people who say they support that. I wonder how many would change their opinion if the had to admit it was KILLING.
BTW, I suppose you know that "execute" is really the wrong word here. It applies to the sentence not the prisoner.
Also, "lawful" is another one of those words lacking in real meaning. Laws can (and do) change in ways that don't correspond to changes in reality.
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Probably none, or nearly none -- most people over the age of about ten are well aware that execution of a prisoner means killing him, and in my experience, nearly all adults who support capital punishment do so precisely because they understand that *very* clearly.

"execute ... 6. To subject to capital punishment" "execution ... 4. A putting or being put to death as a legal penalty." "executioner. 1. One who adminsters capital punishemnt. 2. One who puts another to death."
[American Heritage Dictionary]

Nonsense. The word has a clearly defined and easily understood meaning: within, or allowed by, law.

Whether the law does, or does not, correspond to reality (or your perception of reality) is of course completely irrelevant to the question of whether any particular act is, or is not, within the law.
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snipped-for-privacy@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote in

well,for liberals,the law means different things at different times,according to popular opinion at the time. "people" in one Amendment does not necessarily mean the same in another Amendment,according to liberals/"progressives". To them,the Constitution is a "living,breathing document" whose meaning changes with the times. That's why they want judges to decide on everything. (liberal judges,of course)
Of course,judges are not responsible to anyone,generally,in power for life.
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So, you're saying the current administration consists of liberals.
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Note that "liberal" and "conservative" are BOTH desirable qualities in limited amounts. Unconditionally favoring one over the other makes no sense. The use of such labels are necessarily incorrect (there are no absolutes) and effectively limit people's thoughts and actions.

Proving it's lack of correspondence with reality.

And none of those are necessarily the same as actual people.
The law is in no way, in control of reality.

Note that can be used as an excuse for anything. In effect, you are saying it means nothing at all.

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wrote:

I use the term "liberal" as it is generaly meant in current usage. Meaning "leftist/socialist/'progressive'/Communist". I agree that many current "conservatives" are not always conservative. I myself am not 100 % "Conservative". But I DO believe that written law should mean the same as written *always*. Otherwise,it's meaningless.

I believe you lost "context" here.

Again,a loss of context.

LAW doesn't "control" anything;it provides for punishment after the fact.

"I" said nothing of the sort. IMO,that's your interpretation.

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On 25 Oct, 08:00, snipped-for-privacy@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:

-- Nonsense. The word has a clearly defined and easily understood meaning: within, or allowed by, law.
Who knows the difference between 'unlawful' and 'illegal'?
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