storing a 20 lb propane tank..

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In a bout of act first think later, I purchase a backup tank of BBQ propane.
But nowhere to store this thing.
Any safety issues if I keep it under a pressured treated deck? Under the BBQ itself is not an option.
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There's not much difference between storing the tank on the deck - you know, the one that's attached to the grill - and storing the spare under the deck.
Do it and don't worry about it.
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On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 02:43:31 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03

DOWN and accumulates in low spots (like basements and drains) - unlike NG, which is lighter than air, so dissipates upwards
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On Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:41:15 AM UTC-4, snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote:

So?
We don't give leaving the tank connected to the grill 24/7/365 a second tho ught.
Surely a tank that is not connected to anything is marginally safer than a tank connected to the grill as far as leaks are concerned. You can forget t o turn off the grill tank, and propane can leak from the connections or reg ulator. Even if for some God forsaken reason, someone turns on the spare ta nk, it won't leak due to the safety valve that requires a regulator be conn ected before it will flow propane.
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:41:45 -0700 (PDT), snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

connected to the grill as far as leaks are concerned. You can forget to turn off the grill tank, and propane can leak from the connections or regulator. Even if for some God forsaken reason, someone turns on the spare tank, it won't leak due to the safety valve that requires a regulator be connected before it will flow propane. Actually if it is just cracked open, the gas will come out slowly. The valve is to prevent the gas from escaping quickly when the hose breaks/blows off. The new valves pretty well prevent the fire situation described earlier by shutting off the flow when the hose pops.
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Just put a hat on it.
Greg
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And, paint a smiley face with lipstick.
(I have a propane tank stored under my pressure treated deck. It's been fine.) . Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . .
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Just put a hat on it.
Greg
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wrote:

A condom would be safer!
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That is where I keep mine. Never had a problem in 45 years.
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Whatever you do, don't store it indoors or below grade.
If the tank leaks, you could have a house explosion, so not storing it indoors is kinda obvious.
Propane is heavier than air, and so if the tank leaks, it can fill a house basement or root cellar with propane and anyone going down there could suffocate before they know what's happening to them; especially if they lose their footing and fall down.
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But there's always a first time. Did you see that fertilizer plant explosion on the news from West TX? Well, if that propane tank blows, it will look just like that fertilizer plant, and people will die for miles around your house, and many homes will be destroyed. Your best bet is to take it about 20 miles away from any buildings, and leave it outside with a tarp over it. Be sure to put up signs that say "Danger Explosives - Do not Go near!". Then take photos of the tank and the signs in case someone does go near it, and dies, you at least have court evidence when you're sued for murder.
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So, how was your trip? Are the aliens friendly? . Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . .

No. I've been away on another planet.
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Oh, they're friendly enough but the sunzabeaches are top-posters! There should be a bounty on 'em! ;-)
On 4/20/2013 6:49 AM, Stormin Mormon top-posted: So, how was your trip? Are the aliens friendly? . Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org
That is where I keep mine. Never had a problem in 45 years.
But there's always a first time. Did you see that fertilizer plant explosion on the news from West TX?
No. I've been away on another planet.
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On 4/19/2013 10:21 PM, Hench wrote:

My extra tank is with the BBQ itself under the BBQ cover and on the deck, maybe just a few inches further from the BBQ unit than the tank that is hooked up. I see no problem in your storing under the deck loosely covered to protect from the elements.
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ruptured while in use and turned the tank into a blowtorch spewing a 6-8' flame against the side of our house. Even after firemen arrived they could do nothing but pour water on it as nobody could approach shutoff. About the time tank 1 ran out of gas, tank 2(full), that was stored next to tank 1, got hot enough the pressure relief valve blew, it ignited and we stood there and watched about half our house burn. We now use natural gas with multiple, accessible shutoffs (with grill no longer next to house). The restoration company that rebuilt our house said it was the 3rd gas grill fire they'd worked on that summer.
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Thanks for that info. Wife keeps bugging me to get a propane grill to replace our charcoal Weber. I like charcoal, but she does most the cooking, so has an advantage. I'll read your post to her next time she mentions propane grill. Check. Maybe checkmate, unless she thinks to employ the "We have a brick house" maneuver.
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The question should not be "can this happen?" but "how often does it happen?" and "what can be done to prevent it from happening?"
I suspect that if hoses ruptured frequently they'd change them, just like they did with the connector type a few years ago.
But it does make sense to keep the grill a few feet away from the house- not just because of possible tank problems but also because on occasion the food does flare up.
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On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 10:35:29 -0500, Vic Smith

Every years there are fires from propane grills. Most are preventable. The grill should not be next to the house for starter, under an overhang, and must be properly maintained.
I have to wonder just how old that flex hose was. They can get stiff over time and should be replaced before they do.
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On 4/20/2013 10:46 AM, tom wrote:

Only hose failure I've heard of was of squirrels gnawing through the hose. I would not think pressure would be that high in them. Good comments to keep in mind though.
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assembled the remnants of the grill a few days after the fire and all seemed intact (tanks,burners,valves) but obviously we found no part(s) of flex line that connected tank to grill.
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z95/dollymadis/Backohouse-before.jpg
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