Problem with winter dryness

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We live in a rented townhouse. During the winter when the heat is used, the place really gets dry. So much so that it dries out the sinus and causes discomfort. Is there any easy practical way to humidify this place?
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Sure. Caulk it. Andersen says an average family of 4 evaporate 2 gallons of water per day, ie 0.0116 pounds per minute... 70 F air weighs about 0.075 lb/ft^3, so you can raise the RH from wo = 0.0025 pounds of water per pound of dry air outdoors to wi = 0.0047 indoors (70 F at 30% RH) by reducing the air leaks until 0.075C(wi-wo) = 0.0116 pounds of water per minute, ie C = 70 cfm. This will also reduce your heating bill.
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On 16 Nov 2004 12:35:32 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@ece.villanova.edu wrote:

They asked for "easy" and they don't own the place. The "easy" way is to just sit a pot of water on the stove, simmer it, and let it steam. You can add spices to create a nice fresh scent while you're humidifying. Try slicing half an apple in the water, they're a frugal buy this time of year and a refreshing scent.
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wrote

Its not actually that easy, particulary the risk of boiling it dry.
Makes more sense to buy a humidifier instead.

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Lower power and automatic cut off. You can still add an aroma oil. I use one in my house and it makes it almost a garden experience.
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Dont use your clothes dryer, hang them in the house to dry, it is cheap as it gets.
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:52:44 -0600, snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net (m Ransley) wrote:

Also, your clothes dryer exhausts indoor air which, one way or another, will be replaced by cold dry outdoor air.
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Rod Speed wrote:

evaporating and sending outside all the water splashed around in taking a shower?
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Nothing like as convenient as using a humidifier, stupid.

Who cares ?
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Rod Speed wrote:

pay to make more with a humidifier you had to buy? Your a genius, Rod!

of your house. If you are paying to heat your house, that is money going out of your house.
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Nope.
Nope.
You're a fuckwit, Blonde.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist fuckwits ?
I dont care how much is lost, because its a tiny part of the winter heating cost.
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And then they would be harboring mold and condensation, no?
Rather than artificially adding humidity, why not get a good balance?
Of course, if you've got those goddamn casement windows in your place, like I do, then I inderstand. Especially if it's a rental. Caulking and weatherstripping is futile in these rat traps. In this case, just keep treating the carpet with cupric sulfate, the baseboards with captan, and the windows with malathion. Use chlorine products sparingly, where needed, to immediately kill and bleach the most aggressive mold.
I live in one of those cheap rentals, and it is terrible.
The best solution is to move out, but real estate being the way it is, and such... I wish I had better credit!
IHTH, mama.
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On 16 Nov 2004 12:35:32 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@ece.villanova.edu wrote:

Or, stop dehimidifying it. Put film over the window frames, or install double glazing. In the winter, most indoor indoor moisture is lost due to condensation, not infiltration.
What do you think, Nick?
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:57:11 -0800, ~^Johnny^~

Anybody with the slightest bit of knowledge on the subject, or even a healthy measure of common sense is waiting for your proof on that last statement. It is not only wrong, but ridiculous. Yet you state it authoritatively, as if it were a proven fact.
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We might get used to that, ie adapt. Arizonans do. We might grow more nose hair or wear mufflers or those foggy alien harmonica holders :-)

It seems unlikely and undesirable and avoidable, esp in this country. Canada's IDEAS (post R2000) air infiltration standard specs 0.15 m^3/h per m^2 of envelope, tested at 50 Pa, which translates into a natural air leakage of about 2.5 cfm, or 0.008 ACH for a 2400 ft^2 1-story house, 125X less than a typical 1 ACH US house.
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On 17 Nov 2004 09:25:38 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@ece.villanova.edu wrote:

Is that enough fresh air to sustain life? Would the oxygen deprivation cause us to be come socialists? Enquiring minds want to know.
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Almost. Early UK coal miners fell asleep with less than 5 cfm each.
Current ASHRAE humans require 15 cfm.
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snipped-for-privacy@gatecom.com (Gary R. Lloyd) wrote:

Nick tends to ignore the fact that the same standards also require air-to-air heat excahngers (forced ventiliation, not random leakage).
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[original post is likely clipped to save bandwidth] On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:05:52 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@gatecom.com (Gary R. Lloyd) wrote:

Maine requires very tight construction and power heat recovery ventilation. My guess is they must have _some_ science behind it.
Sustaining life is an intriguing question, I wonder if they addressed it. Since the ventilation is powered and extended power outages are common in the coastal areas of the state!
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wrote:

Not necessarily. politics + science = junk science

Those who put energy savings first tend to fluff off the unimportant stuff like health and comfort.
Possibly I am wrong on this, but quoting from the ASHRAE bible and long involved formulas are not going to do much to convince me.
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