Painting an exterior plastic column -- Correct Primer to use?

Hi,

My house has these circular columns on the front porch. They are made of plastic. The white paint that is on them is flaking off and pealing.

I want to use as the top coat Benjamin Moore Alkyd Exterior house paint to match existing colors.

What is the correct primer paint to use?

Many thanks, Mike.

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hobbes
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Mike, it is a good rule of thumb to use the primer that they want you to use, the recomendation is on the can of paint. The companies for the majority of the time formulate the primer and top coat paint to work together,. I don't know if this holds true for Benny Moore, I'm a fan of Pratt and Lambert myself. make sure to use an oil/alkyd base primer.

Clark

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Clark...

Clark... wrote:

Strike my last post Mike !!!!! I just re-read it and noticed the Plastic word.............'doh! You first need to find out what kind of paint is currently on those columns... then decide whether or not to strip it etc, Oil over the plastic would be a bad choice!!!!! read this, and there are some links too. Clark...

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Reply to
Clark...

I would call a few paint stores Benjamin Moore or Sherwin Williams and a few companies that make columns, Plastics are different Sherwin Wiliams has a topcoat that bonds to most anything, you will need to remove the old paint to do it right.

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ransley

Use a Benjamin Moore Primer. As all good paint jobs, proper preparation is required. I used BM primer and BM paint over 12 years ago on my plastic exterior trim and it still looks good. I added mildewcide to both primer and paint, because that's a very common problem in my climate.

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Phisherman

For the selected paint, BM will have a suggested primer. Whether that is suggested for the application is a different question.

Where you need to start is w/ the composition of the column and the manufacturer's recommendation for finish/painting.

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Reply to
dpb

Correct procedure in this situation is to scrape off all loose material. Sand out as needed to smooth surface a bit. Prime with an exterior rated acrylic primer like BM Fresh Start. Top coat with Moorglo.

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Bonnett Decorating

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