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• posted on March 21, 2012, 10:11 pm
In case you missed this one.
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• posted on March 21, 2012, 11:10 pm
Red Green wrote:

At the other extreme are those whose sense of self-worth is determined by how many "friends" they have.
Pitiful.
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• posted on March 22, 2012, 1:52 am
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It's a four-letter word!
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• posted on March 22, 2012, 2:26 am
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:11:08 +0000 (UTC), Red Green

I don't even have a Facebook page, but if asked for the information, I'd tell them to F off and leave. I'd not work for a company that would even ask for such information.
We're losing our freedom, piece by piece.
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• posted on March 22, 2012, 12:35 pm
Robert Green wrote:

Almost every identifying number out there contains a check-digit. The check-digit (CD) is a mathematical combination of the other digits and is used to verify the transcription integrity of the target number. Here's an example: Suppose the identifying number (your driver's license number, a part number, etc.) is "12345". A CD algorithm might be to simply add the numbers (15 in the example) and stick the units digits of the sum, a "5", on the end of the original number. This would yield "12345-5". Thereafter, if someone types "72345-5" - mistaking the leading "1" for a "7" - the computer would go "TILT" and reject the number.
All that said, it's interesting to note that your Social Security Number does NOT contain a check-digit ! (SSNs were developed before the universal use of check-digits.) That, in turn, means that user's of your SSN (usually) have no way of knowing the number you provided is accurate.
While some deliberate uses of a fake SSN may expose you to a significant liability, such as opening a bank account where your info is sent to the IRS, there is no liability for a "mistake." For example, transposing two digits is a common error in all renditions of number strings, i.e., 345661 --> 435661.
Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
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• posted on March 22, 2012, 12:48 pm
On 3/21/2012 10:26 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

What really annoys me is when someone will say "it is a good thing that an anal probe will now be required for "y" and don't complain because we already need an anal probe for "x"...
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• posted on March 22, 2012, 1:36 pm
And, I find annoying, the people who seem amazed and shocked that anyone would refuse such a privacy invasion, anal exam, drug test, background check, NICS check, etc.

What really annoys me is when someone will say "it is a good thing that an anal probe will now be required for "y" and don't complain because we already need an anal probe for "x"...
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• posted on March 22, 2012, 11:19 pm

Certainly it depends on the job. McD's burger flipper is different than one where the level of trust is greater than showing up.

Agreed. Illegal drugs are a good place to draw the line in most cases. The company is on pretty solid ground, there. It does depend on the job and the level of trust required, though. Also, higher salaried (trust) jobs could easily have higher standards.
Financial situations are another sore subject here, but I think it's absolutely relevant for many positions, particularly high-level or professional careers.

I didn't mean *you*. ;-)
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• posted on March 23, 2012, 4:00 pm

One of these days, harry, you're going to make sense, if even my accident.
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• posted on March 22, 2012, 12:49 pm

I wouldn't want to *hire* someone who would willingly hand over a password to a facebook account. They'd be an IT liability, and clearly don't have the intestinal fortitude to point out to those above when something is a stupid idea. I would also not want to work for someone who would ask me for a password to a personal account unless it was a test for stupidity as above.
nate
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• posted on March 22, 2012, 12:59 pm
On 3/22/2012 8:49 AM, N8N wrote:

A good friend and I had a similar discussion last night. We both agreed we would push someone who refused to the top of the short list. We also agreed we would award extra points for not even having a facebook account.
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• posted on March 22, 2012, 3:43 pm
On 3/22/2012 6:59 AM, George wrote:

That sounds good to me. But I suspect about everyone younger than about 30 has a facebook account. IMHO employers should not have access to it. Sounds like there are legal problems for employers accessing facebook accounts (don't remember what a couple articles said). Employers may farm out looking at accounts to another company.
I also read recently that for some 'professional' jobs, applicants may be evaluated on qualities like 'leadership' online at sites like linked-in. I'm not fond of this either.
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• posted on March 22, 2012, 1:40 pm
I hadn't thought of that angle.
Phone rings.
Employee: McDonalds of Pittsford, may I help you? Voice: This is Bill, from Burger King of Pittsford. I need the log and pass to your McDonalds account. Employee: You mean my personal account, or the store? Voice: The store, please. Employee: we just changed it. The new password is frenchfry, all one word, and all small letters. Voice: Thank you, that's what I needed.
The next day, a GSF truck rolls up, and attempts to deliver the 4,000 cases of quarter pounder meat the store ordered.
I wouldn't want to *hire* someone who would willingly hand over a password to a facebook account. They'd be an IT liability, and clearly don't have the intestinal fortitude to point out to those above when something is a stupid idea. I would also not want to work for someone who would ask me for a password to a personal account unless it was a test for stupidity as above.
nate
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• posted on March 22, 2012, 11:52 pm

Not sure that's a winner. What are you still doing in possession of their property?

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• posted on March 22, 2012, 12:52 pm

Normally I'd think you were snarking, but I can't tell. Because Verizon (to be fair, I only have experience with the land line portion of the company, I was too scared to ever consider using them for cell service after receiving such nonexistent "service" consistently over a period of years on various land lines to the point where I just finally went cell-only) does have, hands down, the worst reliability and customer service of any company I've ever dealt with. I'm amazed that they are still in business, frankly. It's that bad. The last place I had a land line, it consistently didn't work, and the last straw was when their service guy didn't show up - because I didn't answer my land line (which didn't work) to confirm the appointment. I couldn't make this shit up.
nate
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• posted on March 22, 2012, 1:41 pm
What? You didn't answer the confirm call, on line that was broken?
You know, that should have been a Darwin award, but it's probably illegal to kill idiot linemen.
Normally I'd think you were snarking, but I can't tell. Because Verizon (to be fair, I only have experience with the land line portion of the company, I was too scared to ever consider using them for cell service after receiving such nonexistent "service" consistently over a period of years on various land lines to the point where I just finally went cell-only) does have, hands down, the worst reliability and customer service of any company I've ever dealt with. I'm amazed that they are still in business, frankly. It's that bad. The last place I had a land line, it consistently didn't work, and the last straw was when their service guy didn't show up - because I didn't answer my land line (which didn't work) to confirm the appointment. I couldn't make this shit up.
nate
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• posted on March 22, 2012, 9:15 pm
On 03/21/12 07:10 pm, HeyBub wrote:

I didn't read any of the comments on the page where it was posted, but our son told us that some of the comments suggested that if the applicant denied having a Facebook page, the interviewer would assume that s/he was lying or that s/he was antisocial. Our niece, who is in HR, said that the interviewer's behavior was outrageous.
Perce
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• posted on March 23, 2012, 12:30 pm

For the record, I am antisocial but still have a Facebook account. And there's nothing wrong with being antisocial.
nate
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• posted on March 22, 2012, 3:25 am
On 3/21/2012 5:11 PM, Red Green wrote:

pretty simple solution to all that. Deactivate the account while job searching and interviewing and say " i have no facebook account." duh.
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Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email
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• posted on March 22, 2012, 3:59 am
Set up a sacrificial account?
On 3/21/2012 5:11 PM, Red Green wrote: