Lending library for tools

[Red Green]

Oren wrote in news:j71v14dj4rb4c6oeij0gbabjn9h34lo0g1@

4ax.com:

I wouldn't have thought they would just leave them there on the honor system :-)

[Oren]

Some of the inmate orderlies had access to places; even staff needed military escort.

And you wouldn't have thought how many pregnancies occurred on that base...while they were there :-/

[Oren]

We had a serious conversation (with military staff) one day, after an inmate was found to have a key for a Thunderbird ( USAF Thunderbird ) hanger cabinet. He was an orderly and had access to liquor, using this key. . The Commander fixed the concern on base , so we gave the inmate a job change :-/

[SteveB]

I would think some moron would cut their finger off and sue. Plus a lot of people who rent stuff are clueless about how it works, and will either mess it up or hurt themselves.

Steve

[SteveB]

I was taken to the hobby shop on Nellis AFB circa 1968 by an airman neighbor. We rounded a corner and came up on an SR71. I have never seen one human being become so upset over something. We went on to the hobby shop, and it was not until much later that I understood what I had seen, and how serious a breach of security it was.

Steve

[dpb]

Why should tax dollars be used to lend books?

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[Stormin Mormon]

Honor system. Two inmates escape, two more are sentenced.

[SteveB]

Why not? They're used to rent hookers.

Steve

[Stormin Mormon]

I'd rather buy hookers than more legislation.

[metspitzer]

And it is money well spent. :)

[Red Green]

"SteveB" wrote in news: [e-mail]:

Hmmm, would be a tad intimidating seeing it come up behind you.

[Anonymous]

On Mon, 5 May 2008 04:44:20 -0600, "Bob" wrote:

:There was an article in Saturday's paper about our local library :considering lending tools as well as books. It mentioned such :things as cement mixers, saws, etc. : :At first, I thought it was an interesting idea, but on second :thought I imagined how those tools could, and probably would, be :abused by people who don't know how to use them or care for them, or :just don't care. : :For example: :"I didn't know you weren't supposed to cut tile with a skill saw". :"I didn't realize there were nails in that old 2 X 4 - but the saw :cut them pretty good". :"Rain wasn't forecast, so I thought it would be okay to leave the :miter saw outside since I was going to use it in the morning". :"I thought I'd washed the concrete mixer pretty good - guess not". :Etc - etc. : :Then there is the liability problem: :"Your Honor, nobody showed me how to use that router well enough, :and that's how I lost a finger, and why I am suing the city". : :The article said there are other libraries that loan tools. Is :anyone aware of this practice and how it works in reality? : :Just curious - Bob-tx : We've had a TLL in our town for many years and I occasionally use it. It's less than a 2 minute bike ride from my house. I've never had a problem with it, to be honest. The tools have always worked. There are always two guys there and they are always friendly, if at times a little harried.

They don't have everything. After many years they are aware of what tools are worth having on hand and which ones aren't. Sometimes you have to buy your own bit or blade, and that's just the way things go. Some tools sort or require that. That's only happened to me one or two times.

There are certain tools that you are only apt to need once and never again. For that a TLL is perfect.

Plus the guys behind the counter are knowledgable and many many times I've bounced an idea off them and they've had a terrific response, something I didn't know or wouldn't have thought of. It's great karma, really. Try to bring the tool back in as good a condition as you found it.

Dan

[Anonymous]

:Bob wrote: :> There was an article in Saturday's paper about our local library :> considering lending tools as well as books. It mentioned such :> things as cement mixers, saws, etc. :>

:> At first, I thought it was an interesting idea, but on second :> thought I imagined how those tools could, and probably would, be :> abused by people who don't know how to use them or care for them, or :> just don't care. :>

:> For example: :> "I didn't know you weren't supposed to cut tile with a skill saw". :> "I didn't realize there were nails in that old 2 X 4 - but the saw :> cut them pretty good". :> "Rain wasn't forecast, so I thought it would be okay to leave the :> miter saw outside since I was going to use it in the morning". :> "I thought I'd washed the concrete mixer pretty good - guess not". :> Etc - etc. :>

:> Then there is the liability problem: :> "Your Honor, nobody showed me how to use that router well enough, :> and that's how I lost a finger, and why I am suing the city". :>

:> The article said there are other libraries that loan tools. Is :> anyone aware of this practice and how it works in reality? :>

: :The Berkeley library has a branch that loans tools. Post-hole diggers, :scaffolding, pressure washers, ladders, hand tools, whatever. : :Consequently, there are no tool rental stores in Berkeley.

There used to be at least one rental store, down on San Pablo sort of near Channing, IIRC. Are they closed now? They had stuff you wouldn't be able to get at the TLL, I think. : :How about libraries loaning tables and chairs for a reception? Trucks or :trailers for that one-time move? Heck, why not limousines for the prom? :Small airplanes for drilling holes in the sky on a lazy weekend? Deep-sea :fishing boats? Clowns for your three-year-old's birthday party? : :I am not in favor of buring books. Most library administrators, however, :should be herded together then somebody strike a flint.

Redneck?? In Berkeley?? Takes all kinds.

[Dick Adams]

Sounds par for the course in Berkeley.

Librarians are the most underpaid, underappreciated of all public servants.

The quote from H. Rap Brown is that the solution to the problems in the American Education System is to tie the administrators to their desks, burn the buildings down, and start over again. It is painful that this solution would still work 40 years later. But I will go into the inferno to save the Librarians.

Dick

[aemeijers]

...one of the secret masters of the world: a librarian. They control information. Don't ever p**s one off. - Spider Robinson

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