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We had a driveway put in and got a verbal estimate for $2000. No written estimate provided despite numerous requests. Now the job is not complete to what we expected, yet price charged is estimate amount. Without a written estimate do I have a leg to stand on? Isn't it the contractors responsibility if there is a dispute?
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you already know the answer... live and learn. if you want a legal opinion, talk to a lawyer.
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Ok...first of all...
Estimate.....not quote...estimate....look it up. There IS a difference.
If the job is not complete, then dont pay. If its complete, pay them. You agreed to allow them to do the work, and they did....you are not giving the full story here. What did they NOT do that they said they would?
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Not complete, how ? You got their price so why ask.
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"Steve@carolinabreezehvac"
| > We had a driveway put in and got a verbal estimate for $2000. No | > written estimate provided despite numerous requests. Now the job is | > not complete to what we expected, yet price charged is estimate | > amount. Without a written estimate do I have a leg to stand on? | > Isn't it the contractors responsibility if there is a dispute? | | | Ok...first of all... | | Estimate.....not quote...estimate....look it up. There IS a difference. | | If the job is not complete, then dont pay. If its complete, pay them. You | agreed to allow them to do the work, and they did....you are not giving the | full story here. What did they NOT do that they said they would? |
That's right, plus, a verbal contract IS an enforceable contract in most states. Are there witnesses to the verbal contract? For YOU, of course.
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yep sure is...it is great....most lawyers will tell you the verbal contract is as good as the paper its written on....<G>
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On 25 Nov 2004 02:32:06 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.comREMOVE (Chris Perdue) wrote:

if of course it is for a real estate transaction - otherwise it is as good as the witness to it.
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Given the clarity and precision with which most speakers of "english" speak, depending on the other guy to have heard what you think you said, (or vice versa) depending on a verbal contract for anything more complicated than "Pick me up tomorrow at noon." is just stupid. If you care about the details, get them in writing. It's not JUST about trust.
--Goedjn
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Very true, but the courts can only act on what is provable.
Good Luck,
tom @ FindMeShelter.com

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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:00:26 -0500, "Steve@carolinabreezehvac"

This door swings both ways. The OP could claim he only got an estimate; came home one day and found his drive torn up and the contractor pouring concrete.
There should always be a written agreement spelling out AT LEAST the scope/quality of work, the price and the start/completion date.

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"dyrymywy" wrote

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dyrymywy wrote:

I am just puzzled and laughing at the same time. What a lousy contractor and consusmer here. Tony
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"if it ain't in writing, it didn't happen"

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No writen contract? Good luck! Greg
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Give details of the job and contract
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you are all right.. and I feel really stupid at this point. Estimate or quote.. were were given price of $2000 for the driveway. The contractor had an emergency so sent a rep to come and scope the job. The driveway was to consist of apx 45 feet from garage to base of drive, of which 15 feet would be concrete and the balance fill and gravel to complete drive to access garage. The problem lies in the rep apparently not passing on the entire scope of the project to the contractor.. or so he now says. This is rural Indiana and I was working with someone new to the field and thought I was going to get a fair shake.. yes, read "stupid". I asked at least 4 times for the written quote - he said he emailed me a copy but I didn't get it and asked again for it to be mailed. Now also note this started with quote in June and work done in September as I wasn't in a hurry.. just 'before winter'. The problem is I thought the price was for the entire 45' drive and he says the $2000 is for the 15 feet of concret area only... left a large drop off to the rest of the drive which we could not drive on to the concrete. Plus, they didn't secure the retaining wall and it is now curved and wavy and extends 2" beyond garage wall - looks terrible. I was hoping someone would know if the contractor was obligated to quote in writing. I told him if I had had the estimate I would have know we weren't talking the same thing. Maybe I'll just go the lawyer route.. I think it's worth the consult time.
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Where in Indiana, I hope it wasnt Brian Henderson " The Hack Crook "
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On 21 Nov 2004 16:36:36 -0800, snipped-for-privacy@kconline.com (dyrymywy) wrote:

A verbal agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on.
Get a lawyer. And stock in an antacid company.
Jeff
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(dyrymywy) wrote:

1st off, look up estimate in the dictionary: To calculate approximately (the amount, extent, magnitude, position, or value of something.
This isn't the 90s, a hand shake/verbal agreement means nothing these days, you should have gotten it in writing, oh well to late now, have you called the original guy up, see if he can dump some gravel for you, gravel is cheap anyway....
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