What ever did we do before we had the internet?
Did we have an epidemic of northern and high-altitude vacation
properties that were damaged because of malfunctioning hvac systems?
Maybe people winterized these homes so it wouldn't matter if the furnace
Maybe there are less expensive telephone-connected devices (that are not
thermostats) that can call you if the ambient temperature falls below
some preset level? And such devices existed years before the internet
In fact, it wouldn't be too difficult to wire up a temperature sensor
and add it as a separate zone of a security system (which presumably
most vacation properties would already have). If the temp falls below a
threshold, the zone opens and triggers the security system to call the
pre-programmed phone number and communicate the trouble-code. You can
do the same with a smoke alarm.
Same argument could be made for every other modern
convenience as well.
Sure, remote dialers and such that report temperatures
out of range have existed for 50+ years. So what? The
reporting capability is just one feature that you can get
with an internet capable thermostat. It was not the main
point. Being able to turn up the temp when you're two
hours away from home was the application. There
are crude devices available that will do that too, via dialup.
But few people would choose one of those over an
internet capable thermostat. You are probably the exception.
Sure you could do that if you have a monitored security system.
A lot of people don't. And again, the thread was about warming up
a house when you are going to be going there, not about temp
warning specifically. Being able to monitor temp is just a side
of an internet thermostat.
How about this scenario. You leave on a two week trip. After
you can't remember if you turned down the thermostat and set it on
hold. With the internet system, you can do it via the internet.
So I call my (friend, relative, neighbor, co-worker, etc) who I've
already arranged for them to check on my house every once in a while (or
at least gave them a spare key) and ask them to check on the thermostat
I suppose - if you're a loner, have no relatives or friends, etc.
You ought to at least look at the Nest. Wireless. Learns your
schedule. Can be adjusted over the net using your cell phone.
Buddy has one. He is in sales and travels a lot and loves being able
to return to warm (or cool) house no matter what his schedule.
On 11-08-2012 20:34, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
If I am not there and cold weather occurs, the thermostat does exactly
the sme thing it does when I am there: keeps the temperature from going
below where I set it. Only when things actually get cold.
I never have to heat "just in case" it might get cold. I just heat if
it DOES get cold.
If you followed the scenario, there are people who
go away for varying amounts of time. I for example,
go on ski trips, where I can be gone from a few days
to a week. Now to have the house at a reasonable
temp with a dumb thermostat, we'd have to leave it
at 65 for a week. With an internet capable one, we
could set it to 50, then change it to 65 two hours
before we return. I don't know exactly how long it
would take to recover $250, but clearly having a house
at 50F for a week when it's 20 outside is going to save
a decent amount compared to having it at 65F.
And then there is also the savings in resources, instead
of wasting energy.
Even cheap electronic thermostats have the ability to program different
settings for each day of the week.
So in your example, you set the temperature for 6 days of the week to
50F, and set the 7'th day (the day you return) to 65. This works almost
equally well if you're gone for 7 days (or less) or any multiple of 7
At worst, you've got one day out of 7 where the temp is 65 instead of
50. So now factor in the savings under that scenario.
Wow, you figure that out? If you've ever tried to program them,
most are a real pain in the ass. It's bad enough to do it once and
most people are not going to want to program it with a new
program just because they are going away for a week. And then
have to re-program it on their return.
Factor in that it's been explained to you many times now that
some of us don't know if we're going to be away for 4 days or
7 days when we leave. Say you have a vacation home. When
you leave, you think you know for sure that you'll be back in 5 days
7 days? How about if you think you'll probably be back in
10 days or 3 weeks? The internet thermostat fits that
purpose perfectly. You can have the house up to temp for
You probably argued that cell phones were a waste too,
didn't you? Why, people could just wait to the next
available phone booth.
Again, that's nice if you know that you'll be returning
in X days. Which is an entirely different situation then
when you go on trips of varying duration and don't know
exactly how long they will be. Or have that vacation home
that you might go back to in 1 week or maybe not for 3 weeks.
Everyone does not live like you do and some of us are
willing to pay a little more for convenience.
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