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On 07/04/2014 03:58 PM, snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote:

Hi Stormin,
Just out of curiosity, when the neighborhood dogs wonder by and decide you are part of their territory... oh never mind.
:-)
-T
Hi Clare,
I have been in the conservative movement all my life. Stormin is not all that right wing. You on the other hand, name call, which makes you the loser in a debate and a totalitarianism. Stormin and I are actually less right wing than our founders.
The following will really PISS YOU OFF:
Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil. We have it in our power to begin the world over again.
Some writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions. The first a patron, the last a punisher.
This is what you missed in Stormin's original post. I will repeat is for you "The first a patron, the last a punisher."
This one of our founding fathers and exactly what Stormin, Oren, and I believe. And what you exactly do not.
Oh yes, that would be Thomas Paine and Common Sense (1776). His writing is why a higher percentage of our population lost their lives fighting that war than any other war in our history.
All the blood that was shed so that you could trash why it was shed and you and other totalitarians liberals, also knows and socialists, have no sense of shame. By the way, what you guys believe is closer to the Nazi socialist monsters than the Soviet Socialist monster. Have you celebrated the senseless murder of any little babies lately?
-T
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2014 17:38:13 -0400, Stormin Mormon

And according to the recent news reports, getting much better by the day. If you didn't have your head totally up your arse , or plugged into FAUX news you might know that.
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On 7/4/2014 7:00 PM, snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote:

Same back at you, about the head up. The statistic guys deliberately fail to count certain types of unemployed. The unemployment situation gets worse, and the numbers get manipulated to make it look better. you do know that, don't you?
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Did your puppetmasters "teach" you that?
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On 7/4/2014 10:12 PM, None wrote:

Personally, I think the puppets are on the left. Folks on the left chant class envy, and Democrat slogans. Yes, we can! while the formerly great country is eroded and trashed.
But, that's part of the disinformer's gambit. Be quick to accuse others of what you are already doing.
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snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote:

I really am beginning to think that we need a Godwin-like Law on the use of Faux News instead of actually working toward refuting what they say. Sorta like the Clinton News Network of old or MSDNC. It has become an excuse to not think and just discard out of hand.....
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On 7/4/2014 11:08 PM, Kurt Ullman wrote:

One of the posts yesterday, I posted a dictionary definition of totalitarian. One of the readers accused me of being totaltarian, or rather that a privately funded Army would be T. One of the aspects of T. is that it rejects or attempts to supress opposition points of view. The slams on Faux news, well, that fits nicely into the T. definition. For those who have eyes to see.
As a real American man, this is one case where I'm so damn pleased to be low T.
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On Friday, July 4, 2014 11:08:12 PM UTC-4, Kurt Ullman wrote:

Bingo. For every 100 that piss and moan about Fox News, probably 5 actually watch it, even occasionally, and maybe 1 could cite something specific that they have an issue with in terms of how it was covered.
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On 07/05/2014 09:32 AM, trader_4 wrote:

Left wingers are frightened to death by the actual news. They are so spineless that they have to be told what to believe by others (propaganda).
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On Sunday, July 6, 2014 1:04:22 AM UTC-4, Todd wrote:

It's interesting how libs brains work. I was watching Kristin Powers on Fox. She's usually not the most extreme lib and is even rational many times. Yet on the issue of the kids coming across the border, her position is that they are kids, we just need to accept them, and anyone who doesn't agree is heartless. On the other hand, I and I think all conservatives, immediately think about the consequences of this. If we're to accept all children from Central America, because it's not a great place to live, then why shouldn't we accept children from anywhere? How about George Soros or similar, charters some 747's and starts hauling kids from Sudan? How about war torn Syria? How about Nigeria, where Boku Haram kidnapped hundreds of girls and regulalry commits massacres? THAT has to be way worse than Honduras. So, being rational, I ask the obvious question. If it's OK for women and kids from Central America to pour in here, why should we treat a 747 landing at JFK any different? Simple answer is that they have no answer.
Why is it that libs are irrational? Or is it that they are rational, know what they are doing, and are just liars?
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On 7/8/2014 11:36 AM, trader_4 wrote:

I've heard Russian orphanage kids are a terror.
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NO, those are the secondary set of number that the Obama Administration's Bureau of Labor Statistics puts out. Been put out in a similar manner for decades. It just that they were small enough to be a non-issue until the last few years.
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On Friday, July 4, 2014 11:09:57 PM UTC-4, Kurt Ullman wrote:

+1
I haven't seen evidence that the unemployment numbers are being deliberately manipulated by the Obama administration. AFAIK, they are still being counted the same way. It's just that for the first time in a very long time, a big component of the decrease in unemployment has been discouraged workers giving up looking for a job and leaving the labor force, as opposed to actually finding a job. That is reflected in the labor participation rate which is at a shocking 40 year low. People give up looking, leave the labor force, and the unemployment rate goes down.
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On 07/05/2014 09:40 AM, trader_4 wrote:

Hi Trader_4,
Where I live (Douglas County, Nevada), our county has lost over 20% of our employment (source was Manta). Some people have moved. Most have stayed. They actual rate of unemployment here is around 18%.
When I pass out card begging for work, I would say at least four out of five business building are empty. They rest are scared to death to spend any money. Every empty building is a family out of work, not to mention their employees.
I am sick death of those liar at the white house and worse with those in American Pravda who are suppose to protect us all against such liars in government.
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On 7/6/2014 1:10 AM, Todd wrote:

Those two seem to work in combination. Failing economy, and propaganda.
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On 07/06/2014 04:33 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Hi Stormin,
No fooling!
Do you remember under "W" when we had an actual 3% unemployment rate (and I got lots of work just from the phone ringing) and American Pravda screamed and yelled about a recession?
Now, can anyone say "Depression". This is as bad as it was in the 30's and 40", only no soup lines. We call soup lines "Food Stamps" now.
And American Pravda covers for these liars! And they gave up their role voluntarily! No one stuck a funnel in their ass and threatened to pour molten lead down it as the Soviet Socialist monsters did to the Russian Patriarch!
-T
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On 7/6/2014 7:20 PM, Todd wrote:

I started my self employ business under Reagan's admin. I had a lot of work, I hired help, and life was good. It's been down hill from there. And at present, it's the worst it's been. I work alone, I'm in endless stifling debt, and I can't hardly afford to pay minimums on credit card debt because there is no work to be had.
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On 07/07/2014 04:13 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

I have never seen such a thing in my lifetime. I want to work. Others want to work. There is nothing to be had.
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On 7/7/2014 3:21 PM, Todd wrote:

Worse than Carter. Might even be up near The Great Depression.
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snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote:

Ummmm
ass isn't spelled "ground"
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