I wouldn't say the relative is incorrect. If it is indeed only 2 wire
w/out a ground, the correct and safest way (GFCI, right?) to install
it is to run wires plus a ground back to a panel or sub panel. All
other options are short cuts to save time, money or hassle, which
reduce the safety and *expected* working of the GFCI.
GFCIs still work when there is no ground. The NEC explicitly allows them
to be installed when there is no ground, but in that case they have to
have the label several people have referred to. IMHO RBM's second post
is the best advice.
The only newsreader that leaves this garbage is your retarded google
one. The garbage is just more noise, even to the people that use
google-groups. Editing is too difficult a concept?
Using your Ouija board again?
You have no idea how difficult it will be to add a ground wire.
And it has not been code compliant for many years to attach it to a
water pipe, except for the first 5 feet of pipe inside the building.
Could be equally applied to hallerb.
On the other had you cleverly edited out the context for my reply and
left parts that are not relevant.
Editing is too difficult a concept?
In any case, at least leaving "too much" gives the context for how the
thread got where it is.
The relics inserted by the google "newsreader" are garbage. They are
100% noise. When I use google I carefully edit them out.
Sorry my editing didn't meet your specs....too little, too much, too
selective........ too bad
In the future, I'll continue to post the way I want to post...welcome
to the internet.
If you need help using navigation means on your computer maybe
someone can help you out.
Don't like a post...here's a tip.....ignore, don't read it.
No ...not exactly.
I don't "not like" your posts........I find them ridiculously
entertaining, keep them coming. :)
It's interesting to see how some people's brains work.
Dude, not to be argumentative, but you've got issues
theres often a easy way to get a wire to where you want it.
too many get scared off by just the idea of running a wire. personally
i enjoy the challenge of wall fishing. have done a good bit of it over
a un grounded GFCI will cause home inspection grief...........
Then (IMHO) you would be as incorrect as Lee's relative.
GFI's dont need a ground to do their job....that's why they come with
A GFI without a ground will test & function just fine.
Besides.. it is very likely a 1950's house has a ground wire in the
A GFI w/o a ground provides a BIG improvement in safety compared to a
simple 2 prong receptacle.
I'll defer to others in the ng more expert but spending $$$'s to run a
ground wire in ONE location when a GFI w/o a ground will work fine is
a waste of money....when I'm sure that those $$$'s could yield more
safety elsewhere in the house
That really depends on your builder and if he expected a GI Bill
inspection. Houses sold under the GI Bill were supposed to have
grounded wiring. Your chance of that happening probably varies by your
distance from the nearest VA office with an inspector. In DC it was
common to have 3 wire Romex and 2 pin receptacles in the 50s, even in
the cheapest tract house (most likely to get a GI tho). You can test
this with a 3 light tester and a 3 prong adapter connected to the
center screw. If it says "OK" you have a ground (although it is going
to be 16 or 18 gauge)
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