Cool.... makes sense. I investigated as well but bigger propane
line, unit cost & others were a killer.
Plus I figured some people would take "Hollywood" showers and my
propane bill would sky rocket.
Decreasing water temp is Mother Nature telling you......... "shower's
But to answer you original question Bradford White..... I got 17
years out of the first one and just replaced it.
I was jammed for time, couldn't procure the specialized unit or do the
install myself ..... so I jobbed it out.
75 gallon propane, high elevation unit $1200 incuding tax
installation (threaded ball valves on hot & cold lines) $500 :(
~$100 per year .....
Oh well not cheap but by the time I drove & did it myself it would
have taken me three days and $100 in gas.
Yes, that's the recommendation I couldn't remember around where I
live... Bradford White. As I said I went with "State" but I can't
compare to Bradford White since I never had one. The State model I
have has brass drain valves. The prior water heaters I had (brand??)
did not and after like 10 years, one cracked and spewed mist
everywhere. It wasn't pretty. I think I had a State in another
house long time ago and that was fine as far as I remember.
Whatever you order, just make sure parts are easy to come by as you
might need service some day and getting the parts quickly will make
life a lot easier for you.
I like my little hardware store. Great prices, and usually cheaper on
select products, they have third party installers. I bought my rheem tank
for less than $400 . A plumber will double price of unit.
You can usually find a day laborer for $10-12 per hour in the parking lot of
the box store. If his hand fits a wrench, and with your supervision, you
should be out for 20-30 bucks for the install. We're talking two water
connections with flexible hoses, and one gas connection with a similar
Seriously, the intellect to install a water heater is trivial; the labor to
jack the thing around not so much.
On the other hand, if you live in a jurisdiction that requires permits,
inspections, and a licensed, union plumber, it might be more.
Don't forget the earthquake strap.
I wonder which unit?
And how much of that $1400 was markup and labor?
You might be paying more for a 40 gel unit. Most heaters only do water.
Christopher A. Young
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Thanks. Rather shocked at a quote yesterday of over $1400 for providing
and installing a 40 gel gas unit on a simple swap out. Trying others.
As mentioned AO Smith makes the Vertex which all things being equal I
would have installed. The list price is close to 2k but it's a much
If you like to sweat plumbing then it is an easy DIY project. If you
have to pay someone, it will cost around $400 to $700. You might be able
to "bargain" by telling the repair man that you will have the tank
drained before they get there.
I might be doing the wrong thing but I buy the cheapest and run it at
as low a water temp as I can get away with. The only thing where high
heat is useful is in automatic dishwasher and I buy those with water
heating capability. I used to run the water heaters at high temps
and it seemed like no matter how much I paid for them it caused them
to rust out far faster. After switching to buy cheap and keep the
heat low they all seem to last fairly long. High heat also seems to
generate huge amounts of mineral deposits in the bottom. Low heat
seems to have solved that problem too.
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