Re: My own experience with Lowes Outside Lawn and Garden lately

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?? pat on the back?? I don't remember deserving or asking for a pat on the back................. maddie who got a raise today <GBSEG>
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You Go Harriet....Thought this whining would stop ages ago....Oh, but she's NOT whining......... I was offered a job with Lowes as garden associate at $10.34/hr....HD offered me $15.00 to start 3 yrs ago............I am now over $17.00, and still an associate and loving it....I see the ones who get hired at just over 7 or 8 dollars and that group is huddled in the break room whining about everything just like her.....Maybe no one at work would listen to her anymore so she expanded her outlook to this NG..........I dunno.........I have to wonder how much PK she has done with Lowes training?
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Where do you start at that? Up around here, yes, those are the prevailing wages at those stores. Down in E. Tennessee, $6.50 and up. Troll babble.
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preferably, both of you will go.... somewhere else. Madgardener has been on this group forever and is one of the most cherished people and her notes from the hollow are exquisite. Ingrid

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Well, I know it's not nice to poke sticks but I said I was NOT whining, and when I say I ain't whining, I'm NOT. Believe it or don't. The post I put here was just that. That someone mistook it for a whine didn't "hear" what I was saying.
I was offered a job with Lowes as garden associate at

How NICE for you!!! And just where were you offered this job with Lowes as a garden associate for $10.34/hr???? Out in Morristown, Newport, and even KNOXVILLE the starting wages are averaging $7.30 an hour, a little bit more for someone of specialist capability, and managorial.
HD offered me $15.00 to start 3 yrs ago............
Again, which Home Deprived offered you $15 to start three years ago???. I left Nashville in 1992 after working for the school board for 9 years and was making $9 an hour and came to Eastern Tennessee to literally minimum wages. $5.15 an hour. For a professional cook/institutional food service intern/prep professional with manager qualifications. Three years ago I worked at a good bistro restaurant in Gatlinburg making $9 an hour and had it not been for the traffic nightmares, I'd kept the job. It was the first time I earned the money I was making in 1992..........And just that Home Deprived offered you $15 an hour doesn't mean you're good enough to deserve it. They'll hire ANYONE.
I am good at what I do. I know this. I am always an asset where I work, and just about all the people I work with like and respect me. I don't demand it, I earn it. And customers who meet me and are serviced by me not only return but return as more than customers. I've made so many friends of the customers where I work, I know differently. You are trying to rile me by insulting me and it's just not working honey. I'm so happy that you make $10 more an hour than I do. I'd not know what do do if I was paid my worth. Probably get caught up on my bills and buy real groceries.
But then, if you were really smart, you'd get your CDL license and make $1700 a week take home driving a semi-truck like 47% of the women truck drivers out there are doing.
I am now

I'm so happy for you!
I see the ones who get

Well it's a good thing I don't go to the break room, now isn't it? I take my breaks in my car to listen to music. And the store where I work, most of the 169 employees are extremely happy. Again, where the shit do you get that I was whining? You wouldn't know a good whine if it was poured into a cut glass goblet.
Maybe no one at work would

LOL you're hilarious! It's people like you who make my job so much fun. I ALWAYS expand my outlook to this newsgroup. If you don't like my opinions, then just don't read them. I don't write for your amusement or need your approval or disapproval. Your attitude is pretty apparent. Jealosy is so unbecoming of someone of your low caliber. And plenty of people listen to me honey. I don't have any problem at all with some of my opinions being heard. If I spout off, and it's just a spout, it'll get ignored. If it's worthy of a thread, then it's worthy. As for people listening to me.........I do just fine sweetie.
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training?
I've only been working for them since last February, but already I have my certification in Level 1 Outside Lawn and Gardening, made a 98% on that one. Made 100% on my HazMat, made a high score on my Cashier certification, made an upper 90's score on Inside Lawn and Garden with a little problem in mowers. Aced the receiving quiz, and aced the SOS training and Commercial Sales. I just don't want to do Commercial Sales.
So far, since last February, it's been estimated that I've personally probably been responsible for over 30% of the plant sales in our nursery. Now if that's bad odds for someone who's just rolled over their FIRST YEAR with the company, then someone can't cipher. It was noticed over the last two weeks that there was an average of at least 5 customers coming into the nursery looking for me, and out of 5, 3 would leave if I wasn't there and they weren't the same people either. That means a lot to me. Makes me know that I am needed and wanted at my store. sheesh.
I may not be paid what I am worth, but the customers and fellow employees give me respect, and you can't put a price on that.
Now away w'ya! madgardener
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Mg wrote:

To me it wasn't whining at all. You seemed to have wanted to give people a "feel" of how it works where you are employed. We had a wonderful store called Eagle Hardware taken over by Lowe's a couple of years ago and I bet that many of the same employees still work there under worse conditions. I only go there once in a while, but the toolguy here says that quality, selection and service has dropped.

(Snipping of wage comparisons) Yeah, right. I've made less money than that as a department director.
Retail is notorious for the low wages they pay employees. I think it's a shame because the workers represent that retailer to the public and it's good to have happy employees. The work is hard and often boring . You can be treated like a drone for so long and then you become one. Good work doesn't really get recognized too much. And, the stress of dealing with customers who often treat you like a bug or less! I should know, I worked at two different KMarts for several years. I was expected to call the mgrs Mr. or Mrs. so-and-so and they called me by my first name. Afterwards, when I worked for a university, we were all on a first-name basis except I chose to give the president and others in their calling their proper title when I spoke to them. And, you know what? The pay wasn't much better than retail but there was some sort of respect for employees, us hourly bottom-of-the-ladder workers.
I haven't worked in retail for years and never hope to again. But I really appreciate retail professionals who aren't trying to sell me anything but honesty. They are hard to find these days.
So, more power to you, MG. May your garden grow well.

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And that is really at the core of the whole problem. I am an unabashed supporter of "livable wages" http://maps.vcgi.org/burlingtonlegacy/home/livable_wage2002.cfm for anyone working 40 hours per week. "A livable wage is the hourly wage/annual income necessary to cover basic needs plus all relevant Federal and State taxes. The basic needs include necessary expenses: food, housing, child care, transportation, health care, dental care, clothing, household and personal expenses, renter's and term life insurance, and 5% savings."
There are other factors that have a profound impact on workers. Respect, recognition and reward ... the three Rs. Good parents teach their children that hard work and "doing right" is rewarded. Then they grow up, go to work and too many find out that there is little relationship between effort and reward. Too many find that their company treats workers as disposable. There is only one consideration and that is the bottom line. No respect for workers, dont bother to recognize and reward working hard, for being honest, for being loyal. Walmart, Sams, and ever company that has moved overseas and/or outsourced work. But I still find smaller stores, restaurants etc where I see the same people year after year. They are pleasant, helpful and professional. And that is where I go to shop and eat. I dont shop at Walmart or Sams, and I dont go to chains where the workers look dead behind the eyes. Ingrid
snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Skirmishd) wrote: Good work doesn't really get>recognized too much.
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