OT...Got Garden? Daily Food Crisis in the News

Came home with several new varieties of tomatoes, couple of beans, met a lot of like-minded loonies, had a thoroughly good time. Even though I got stranded on the wrong side of a dry stream (between campground and parking lot) that wasn't so dry after a night of Biblical thunderstorms. Got out when it went down later in the day... (Monday; I usually stay over and hit the road Monday AM, sightseeing as I go. It's about 2-1/2 days driving time from upstate NY to Decorah, Iowa.

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

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I hope you are jesting for effect. It won't come close, but would hurt and bleed and maybe lead the coyotes to them.

cheers

oz, who has taken hundreds of edibles from bullfrogs to moose and only twice needed more than one shot

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MajorOz

I'm not arguing your point, but I am wondering about a front skull shot, or thru the ear canal, from *very* close range.....much the same as the shot one uses dropping a steer.

Hold On Now......Just found this!!

Check out this video at Gamo....guy shoots wild pig....dead!!

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's the first video in the list...hunting experience.

Hell, maybe I am arguing the point now! ;-)

My 1100 fps gamo pokes a hole thru a 5/4 cypress board neat as you please.

These Raptor pellets look good.

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just bought some hollow point pellets to try on frogs this year. Hopefully they will have more shock to them and stop them leaping out and making me get me arse soaked retrieving them.

Man, mess of frogs sounds good.

Charlie

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Charlie

The thing is, the WASTE products from growing foodstuffs can be used to make ethanol. Grain straw and corn stalks. The Cellulose just has to be digested first.

They ought to use fungi to do that. Not only would it be efficient, but there are enough edible cellulose eating mushrooms, you can get an additional food crop first that way.

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Omelet

Nice!

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Omelet

Check this website:

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Omelet

I wish I had somewhere I could hunt bullfrog. :-(

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Omelet

Omelet wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@news.giganews.com:

you're making sense. you know that's not allowed! anyone know which version of the assine Farm Bill passed on Friday (or didn't it)? lee

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enigma

Just found this one. It looks interesting and useful, though I haven't nosed about much yet. Looks like some good how-to things and planners.

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Charlie

Nothing yet but they say they are close. For reports Google "farm bill, 2008".

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bill prunes credits for ethanol

By PHILIP BRASHER ? REGISTER WASHINGTON BUREAU ? April 26, 2008

Washington, D.C. ? Congressional negotiators reached agreement Friday on a new farm bill that would nick crop subsidies and reduce the tax credit that underpins the ethanol industry.

Some details were still to be worked out over the weekend, including a tightening of income-eligibility limits for farm subsidies.

However, the deal broke an impasse that had delayed final work on the bill for months.

The House and Senate passed competing versions of the bill last fall. Advertisement

However, President Bush threatened to veto any bill that used what he considered tax increases to pay for higher spending. The House and Senate were also at odds with each over funding.

"Everybody took some cuts," said Sen. Tom Harkin, the Iowa Democrat who is chairman of the Senate Agriculture Committee.

White House spokesman Scott Stanzel declined to comment on the agreement, saying administration officials had not seen the entire package.

The final bill could be put to the vote of a House-Senate conference committee as early as Monday.

Grain and cotton growers successfully fought off a significant cut in the $5 billion in fixed annual payments that they receive. Under the deal, those payments would be reduced by $400 million over a 10-year period.

Iowa farmers and landowners receive about $500 million annually in fixed payments.

The federal tax credit that subsidizes the ethanol industry would be trimmed from 51 cents to 45 cents a gallon to help offset the cost of a package of tax incentives for horse racing, timber and other industries.

A new subsidy, worth as much as $1.01 a gallon, would be created for ethanol made from sources other than corn, including crop residue and wood waste.

Reducing the subsidy for conventional grain-based ethanol would lower the price of corn by less than 3 cents a bushel, said Iowa State University economist Bruce Babcock. Corn prices in Iowa were more than $5.30 a bushel Friday.

Lawmakers agreed to extend a tariff on imported ethanol through 2010. It is scheduled to expire at the end of this year.

Harkin preserved $1.1 billion in funding for the Conservation Security Program, which would expand the program from 16 million to 80 million acres.

The program provides payments to farmers for practices that reduce erosion.

Congressional aides were also still working on final details of an optional new subsidy program that would protect farmers against drops in yields as well as market prices. The program has been a top priority for corn growers in Iowa, who say that rising production costs have raised the financial stakes for a crop failure.

"There's no question we're glad to see that they've finally come to an agreement" on the bill, said Ron Litterer, a Greene farmer who is president of the National Corn Growers Association.

Existing farm programs were scheduled to expire last fall but have been extended several times and are now set to end next Friday.

On Thursday, lawmakers agreed to drop a revenue source that the White House had objected to and instead decided to get money they needed through extending user fees paid by importers. Under federal budget rules, user fees do not count as taxes.

The user fees and some spending cuts were needed to pay for boosting nutrition programs, including food stamps, and creating a disaster relief program sought by farmers in North Dakota, Montana and other drought-prone states.

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Billy

Not I. Now you are scaring me. :-(

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Omelet

Gawd, I keep sayin' I want to go to this, but I always find some excuse not to drive the 6 hrs. I can't even make myself drive the four hours to Bakersville to give Oz an ear. Gonna have to take out a loan to drive it before long. ;-)

Sounds like a great time.......sigh.

Charlie

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Charlie

Theoben make a so called Dampa mount which is suposed to absorb the recoil of an air rifle. Weather it would be of any use on a rifle that powerfull I do not know. We do not have air rifle`s that power full in the U. K. I did try to find a web site, I am sure they have one. U. K. phone no = Theoben

01487 740 744 . Hope this helps you.

Richard M. Watkin.

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R M. Watkin

It'd have to help the other poster. :-) I can pretty much get anything I need/want in Texas...

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Omelet

"You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant..." ~~ Arlo

Sorry ;-) I'll go back to the garden now!

Charlie

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Charlie

I see that the article that I was lookin' for isn't on the menu;-) Dang, again.

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Billy

Here is also something many might find useful:

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Omelet

Thanx, Charlie. My propane powered ISP (26K) precludes my being able to look at videos.

That 1100 fps sounds pretty good, but those raptor pellets put out

11.2 lb/in2 -- kinda low for me.

Of course, I am dealing with a pretty cheap punp-it-up gun. I see that there are some pretty sophisticated ones out there that I can charge from the compressor in the barn and chop down oak trees.

cheers

oz

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MajorOz

than I am used to. Looks like some really sophisticated stuff around that I was unaware of. If I were going that big, I would probably stir up my own black powder and cast my own bullets :-)

cheers

oz, who is almost too old to draw his bow*, but still manages a deer with it on lucky days.

*and no puns from you with dirty minds.
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