OT...Got Garden? Daily Food Crisis in the News

Great idea. Don't tell anyone else;-)

O.K., Way too much fun going on here.

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of food rationing hits US

The spectre of food rationing arose in America today as retailers began imposing limits on rice and flour sales following bulk purchases by customers alarmed by rocketing global prices for staple foods.

Wal-Mart's cash-and-carry division, Sam's Club, announced that it would only sell a maximum of four bags of rice per person to prevent supplies from running short.

Its decision followed sporadic caps placed on purchases of rice and flour by certain store managers at a rival bulk chain, Costco, in parts of California.

The commodity cost of rice hit an all-time high on the Chicago Board of Trade this week and in some stores, retail prices have doubled over the course of a few weeks.

Retail experts said there was little evidence of "panic" hoarding by the public - but that restaurants and smaller retailers were buying up stocks at warehouse wholesalers in the expectation that the cost was heading even higher. Shops said Filippino residents in the US were also making large purchases to send to relatives in the Philippines, where a shortage of supplies is causing concern.

"What you're seeing is people who buy in larger quantities, who have a restaurant or a corner store, stocking up because of media reports that prices could go higher," said Dave Heylen, a spokesman for the Californian Grocers' Association.

Since the beginning of the year, rice producing countries including China, India, Vietnam and Egypt have imposed limits on exports in order to keep prices down at home. This week, a top World Bank official predicted that Thailand, the world's largest rice exporter, might follow in restricting shipments.

Restrictions at Sam's Club, which has 580 warehouse stores across the US, apply to Jasmine, Basmati and long grain white rices - the type typically used for dishes such as curry. The chain said the limits were "due to recent supply and demand trends".

At Costco, chief executive James Sinegal said only very large purchases would face sanctions: "If a customer came in and said 'I want 10 pallets of flour', we'd probably say, 'No we can't give you that. We can give you one pallet.'"

The owner of one restaurant in Oakland told a local television station that the price of a typical sack of rice had risen from $20 to $40 in a matter of weeks. Son Tran of the Le Cheval Vietnamese restaurant said his stockpiles were dwindling - and that the price of some vegetables had also risen by as much as 50%.

Industry leaders sought to calm fears. Tim Johnson, chief executive of the California Rice Commission, said there was no prospect of an overall shortage of food - and that stores' supplies were quickly being replenished.

"The reality is, at least for the next several years, we've seen a new level for what food costs are going to be in the US and probably internationally, too," said Johnson, who added that a typical serving of rice cost less than 10 cents. "It's still the best deal on your plate."

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Enjoy dinner tonight;-)

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Billy
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I called my sister to see what she wants me to store. We have a bunch of storage cabinets on the sun porch, and I think I can combine or get rid of some of the stuff stored out there to make some space.

Cabela's is also having an ammo sale.

Also be sure to clean, dry and store what seeds you can from grocery items such as winter squashes. The grocery store beans also grow rather well. I've done that. :-)

:-)

Yes. I started cutting "luxury" spending a couple of years ago so I'm in better shape right now. I'm considering cashing in some mutual funds to pay off the house, altho' I'm a bit loath to do that as I'd have to pay tax on that "income".

Indeed. Cheers!

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Omelet

Screw Sam's. The Asian market in Austin has a LOT more rice for a lot better prices! In fact they have a LOT of healthy, bulk dry goods as well as some of the more tasty canned goods for lower prices.

I'll clean out the back of my truck and make a trip down there. I usually freeze or refrigerate bulk rice since I have the space to do so.

We need to so the same with wheat and corn here. Start using more of it domestically instead of selling it. Take care of home FIRST!

And be sure to add beans... Beans are also very easy and fast to grow. I'm planning on putting in a bunch and doing only container gardening to save on water.

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Omelet

Yep......way too much, way too fast.

I just flipped on the news infotainment and lo and beshit, msnbc is all over this rationiong of rice and the dire outlook for crops, worldwide and domestically.

Eff me, gonna be a run food. Followed by runs on what else, I wonder.

Last night, before it rained again, I converted on of the flower beds to a salad and root bed. I used Bill W's anecdotal method, small scale, and broadcast assorted greens and roots.

Ah me, last night I read an article about the shit going down in Haiti. Children getting two spoonsful of rice for a meal and the helplessness felt by their parents.

Charlie, who is all over the place emotionally about "things"

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Charlie

Ahhhh.......ya' didn't have to tell me that...anything on sale at Cabelas ends up costing me more cuz I always find other things that I

*need*. Been looking at a new pair of boots, a large expediton tent, new rainwear........

I've also been eyeballin' the new line of air rifles that shoot 1600fps with the raptor pellets........good for urbanhunting! ;-)

Me too!

It's kinda like an adventure. ;-) Hope this one ends well!

They are gonna have their pound of flesh whatever way they can, eh?

Exactly! Attitude is all important!

Keep on smilin' Charlie

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Charlie

I plan on going to Austin in the morning. Made up a shopping list and I'm gonna hit the Asian market for rice and other dry goods. Dried fish, shrimp and shitakes.

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Omelet

Use your points.

A lot of the ammo that is on sale is running price-wise about what it was last summer.

Yeah. I need to seriously look at some of the more serious air guns. Some of them are very powerful! Enough to take down an elk.

It would certainly save on ammo. :-)

This one is scaring me. Inflation is NOT keeping up with wage increases anymore.

Keep a sense of humor and save wherever you can!

Asian markets are wonderful.

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Omelet

Your way of life encourages me. I hope it is on account of our seeing the handwriting and divining the tea leaves and bones correctly, not cuz we're both nutz. ;-) Seriously, thanks, I appreciate being of similar mind.

Wanna see my latest gotta have, really really need it and I can't afford it Tool?

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Have fun tomorrow, I am envious, and don't forget seasonings and sauces to break the tedium.

Charlie

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Charlie

Step Aside Dollar, Is Rice the New Global Currency?

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Never before in history has hunger become a global threat in a period of plentiful harvests. Global rice production will hit a record of 423 million tons in the 2007-2008 crop year, enough to satisfy global demand. The trouble is that only 7% of the world's rice supply is exported, because local demand is met by local production. Any significant increase in rice stockpiles cuts deeply into available supply for export, leading to a spike in prices. Because such a small proportion of the global rice supply trades, the monetary shock from the weak dollar was sufficient to more than double its price.

It is not only rice, of course, that the cash-rich countries of the world are buying as a store of value; the price of wheat, soy and other grains has risen almost as fast. This might deal the death-blow to America's hapless efforts to stabilize the Middle East, where a higher proportion of impoverished people eat off state subsidies than in any other part of the world. Egypt has been the anchor for American diplomacy in the Arab world since the Jimmy Carter administration (1977 to 1981), and is most susceptible to hunger. Food prices have risen by

145% in Lebanon and by 20% in Syria this year. Iraqis depend on food subsidies financed by American aid.

"We're a little disorganized." ;-)

Charlie

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Charlie

Whoa....I forgot about the points! I just hollered at Mona and she says we have $174. Yessir, time to think about how to best use 'em!

That's surprising, given the price of metals now. Yep, time to order.

Check out the link in the other post to you, though you likely have been droolin' on that page already. ;-)

Hell yeah.

I know what you mean and feel.

Wage increases are few and far between in my work. If I recall correctly, you are a labrat. Bringing in the big bucks for the "healthcare" provider, whilst slaving away with little increase. I deal with hospitals, doctors, pharmacies, the healthcare assembly line all the time. DIL is pediatric LPN. No independant doctors left in the county, only two FNPs who are only as independant as FNPs are. The best DDS in many counties around just lost his OR/hospital privileges...don't have the full story yet, but good for him. Likely wouldn't dance. 'Nuff said.

Carpe Diem.....hang on and ENJOY!!!

Charlie

"You just caught me on a good night. I'm doing what I was made to do - and I've got a feeling I'm going to do it even better this time" - Captain Billy Tyne

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Charlie

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by Soulskill on Friday April 25, @05:19AM from the hope-they-don't-unionize dept.

esocid alerts us to news that scientists from the University of Texas at Austin have created a microbe capable of making cellulose, which can then be turned into ethanol. The bacteria use sunlight as an energy source, and the cellulose can be harvested without destroying them. Quoting: "The new cyanobacteria produce a relatively pure, gel-like form of cellulose that can be broken down easily into glucose. 'The problem with cellulose harvested from plants is that it's difficult to break down because it's highly crystalline and mixed with lignins [for structure] and other compounds,' Nobles says. He was surprised to discover that the cyanobacteria also secrete large amounts of glucose or sucrose, sugars that can be directly harvested from the organisms."

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Bill

I stopped at their Prairie du Chien, WI store on my way to the Seed Saver's Exchange meet a couple of summers ago (I'd forgotten to pack my LED flashlight). _Barely_ survived a major attack of "kid in the candy store" syndrome.

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

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Gary Woods

Trust me. We are _anything_ but alone on this one. A lot of people are getting scared.

1,600 fps is respectable! And the price is around average for good rifle. A lot less than I paid for that Bushmaster Varminter.

It worked fine. I'm glad to know they have something like that. That velocity should bring down a deer at close range.

MT has a LOT of variety to choose from!

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Omelet

Indeed...

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Omelet

I used up my $64.00 in points getting ready for that hunting trip a couple of weeks ago. Cabela's Visa. It's a good thing! I'm considering using it for gas. In store purchases are a 2% return for points, outside purchases are 1% return and carry a higher interest rate that does not matter if you pay it off monthly.

I've been using debit for gas. I quit using gas cards about 6 months ago.

It was a sale. :-)

I did look at it. There are specific scopes too for air rifles. Their recoil is different and it will destroy most rifle scopes, so if you do get one, be sure to get a scope designed for air rifles. If you google for scopes, it will say Air Rifle scopes.

Just when I thought I was getting ahead of the rat race, along came faster rats.

Yep. I'm lucky to get 3% to 4% per annum.

We just got sold to Santa Rosa, so the purse strings have been loosened a little, but it's still tight.

Carpe Nostrum...

;-D

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Omelet

Let us hope that this actually gets USED and not hidden somewhere.

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Omelet

I feel your pain. ;-D

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Omelet

Growing food stuffs in a hungry world not only for cars. What can I say aside from the fat of the land should feed the people.

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who wonders if it would just add carbon load to a warming planet.

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Bill

This particular blog is refreshing.

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has a great website/blog on lots of things dealing with the situation, food storage and planning, good external links etc.

Care Charlie

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Charlie

But......what about the Meet? How did you survive *that* attack? ;-)

Charlie

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Charlie

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