I speak in zones but err on the low side just to be a bit on the safe side. Our local micro clime it colder due to low elevation I guess. Surrounded by swamps within 400 yards, Temp settles in on cold nights.
Bill likes Lindisfarne for some obscure reason.
The Queen is a local. Blue blooded is no recommendation of noble mindedness... one can buy dogs with papers still gotta walk em.
Coastal US weather is governed by the seas same as the UK... you're grasping, obviously.
Ummm, yes I did.. I stated I live in Herts, UK.
And yes, we need need to plant garlic in November , so that it gets=20 rooted and sprouting before the winter sets in.
But my question was whether or not it matters that the tops get bent=20 over with snow and ice. Will they recover.
Ed (Herts, UK)
No, no..... "Herts" is NOT slum speak. It is the official abbreviation=20 given by the Post Office and Royal Mail for the county of Hertfordshire=20 in SE England.
Also, the UK does not include Ireland ( aka the Republic of Ireland).=20 But does include the province of Northen Ireland. But what the heck are =
the Isles?
But hey I only wanted to know if my garlic and onions will survive now=20 the tops have got bent over with the recent heavy snow and ice we=20 experienced last week.
Ed (Herts, UK)
It matters, but not hugely. The cloves will have wasted energy producing tops that get damaged. Unless the damage is so severe/frequent that the cloves run out of stored food, you'll still get a crop, albeit reduced somewhat.
Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
Welcome to a most interesting digression. Conversations are often like that!
Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
Sheldon, you're busting balls *and* 'grasping,' as usual for anything that makes you seem informed while you point out the opposite very well. "The Queen is a local?" - what the hell does that mean? Never mind, I don't think I need a better look at the inner workings of your mind. If you didn't get 'Herts' you should have gotten 'UK' but then you'd have one less opportunity to quibble over a pointless point. And you don't understand the great difference between having a coastline and being a relatively small land mass surrounded by the sea. I live on the coast of Maine, but expect sub-zero temperatures every winter. While my climate is moderated by the ocean, move
10 miles inland and it all changes. There, the summer is warmer, but the winter is colder.To anyone else, here's an url I found while looking up garlic-ing that I thought was helpful for my Zone 4 gardening.
You be typing like eubonics... I suppose you can't spell Hertsfordshire. If you wanted to stay pure UK you should not have crossposted, crossposting is always poor form anyway... I asked someone I know well who lived in London for many years, she says Hertsforshire is a slum, a ghetto of uneducated inbred miscreants... it's no wonder you can't express yourself in proper English.
Rooted, yes but why sprouted garlic before winter. If sprouted garlic is what you need and you say you have sprouted garlic, then your question is inane, nay, insane. I say, old chap, you don't make any sense, old bean.
And some priggish lout claims England gets no snow and ice... I knew he's an idiot but arguing with idiots is a waste, it's not possible for idiots to learn.
It seems you're asking a theorhetical... only one way to find out about your garlic, wait. It's amazing how folks from the UK especially are incapable of constructing a proper sentence... and then they get their knickers all twisted when they don't get the responses they wish.
Cheerio and all that...
"Sheldon" wrote >
You be typing like eubonics... I suppose you can't spell Hertsfordshire. If you wanted to stay pure UK you should not have crossposted, crossposting is always poor form anyway... I asked someone I know well who lived in London for many years, she says Hertsforshire is a slum, a ghetto of uneducated inbred miscreants... it's no wonder you can't express yourself in proper English.
Rooted, yes but why sprouted garlic before winter. If sprouted garlic is what you need and you say you have sprouted garlic, then your question is inane, nay, insane. I say, old chap, you don't make any sense, old bean.
And some priggish lout claims England gets no snow and ice... I knew he's an idiot but arguing with idiots is a waste, it's not possible for idiots to learn.
It seems you're asking a theorhetical... only one way to find out about your garlic, wait. It's amazing how folks from the UK especially are incapable of constructing a proper sentence... and then they get their knickers all twisted when they don't get the responses they wish.
Your ignorance of the accepted short version of an English County and your ignoring of the UK bit in the original post was nobody else's fault but yours. There is a whole world outside the US. It is you who made a fool of yourself by spouting on adamantly about your way of growing garlic which has no relevance for the UK and the OP at all. Then you persist in blaming everyone else and twisting/misreading/misunderstanding their comments to continue your silly diatribe for some strange reason known only to you, and with every new post you confirm my thoughts about you.
There is no problem in cross posting. It's a great way of getting informed opinion and experience across the board.
And hey, Hertfordshire is no slum.. Its a rich county outside of London.
The only ignorance is in if one desires to keep it pure UK is DON'T CROSSPOST.
I got yer UK... GO FUCKITH THYSELF!
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .
Sometimes my countrymen embarrass me. Shields up..
Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
Sometimes so do mine me .
Looks like we're neighbors.
Hide, Gary!
My garlic has sprouted, which in my blissful ignorance I'm pleased about. In the past it has usually died back in the winter to sprout anew in the spring, but the last 2 winters have been warm enough that it never died back.
I don't get store bought sized heads, but it sure is good. (Of course, I also get tator tots when I grown potatoes, unless I plant them in planters.
Kate - limestone country, TN
I've done the next best thing.
If you give it a good shot of N while the foliage is growing in early spring, plus potash when the bulbs are forming, you'll likely do better. Of course, smaller garlic tends to be more pungent as well as store better, so unless you really think size matters, why bother?
My pride was wounded a bit this weekend: Some folks came up to get stuff I'd put on Craig's list (two ....erm... mature households merging have a LOT of extra "stuff!"), and noticing my email (think garygarlic in the first part), brought a nice bulb of "music" they'd grown. Fully twice the size of mine.
Oh, well... as the Senators fans used to say, "Wait 'til next year."
Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
One of the best parts of gardening - next year. I sold at a small farmers market for a few years but would never take my garlic - MINE! All mine! One farmer sold elephant garlic - huge things, but it aappeared to only have one clove?
For fertilizing, I tend to stick with compost and manure and/or herbal teas. I tried to cure tomato blight with garlic tea one year - didn't work entirely, but I had tomatoes to sell into August so who knows?
Kate
I apologize. Shelly really isn't one of us. He would rather be a jack booted Israeli chasing Palestinian children around with a tank. If you want to come and take him and give him a good hiding, we will all understand.
Sincerely yours,
Your right Bob. Shelly has several screws loose. He really needs some nice padded accommodations.
It only gets worse if your name is Christian.
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From: Sheldon Newsgroups: rec.gardens Subject: Re: I would like some feedback.. Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:51:22 -0700 (PDT)
Your parents must have had high hopes for you to succeed in the arts... you're not going to do well in business unless you change your name.
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Shelly is really an embarrassment to sane people everywhere.
Watch out. He has 6 attack cats to defend him!!!
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