Yep. I've seen that comment in a number of places. And they're
harder to build.
So why are they on so many benches? Still trying to figure out how
that's any improvement over simply mounting a normal Record or
Wilton vise at the end of the bench...
I've read that article several times, and I'm still unconvinced. He writes:
"The main reason why a traditional tail vise is so darn useful is because of the
gap you get in the front of your bench. this gives you the perfect way to
solidly clamp chair
legs, or any long part that needs to be held while you work on it from one end.
have space on both sides of the work for tools."
But a leg vise accomplishes essentially the same thing, without the difficulties
And it won't ever sag.
He also says:
"the tail vise also has dog holes so I can easily clamp boards ... longer than
Not very much longer, he can't.
"and have them supported all along the underside, except for a small gap. With a
mounted face vise you just don't get that kind of support. "
This is simply nonsense. An end mounted face vise is also capable of clamping
longer than the bench and having them supported over nearly their entire length
regardless of the type of vise, it's the *bench* that supports the board, not
the vise, over
Because they offer a lot of benefits too. The sagging can be fixed.
Usually the support pieces underneath need redoing.
I'll see if I can post a pic of the underneath of an L from Frank
One of the benefits is having support on both sides of the jaws with the
When using a standard vise, like on mine, I only get 3 inches of support
over the vise. (The depth of my pad on my vises face)
There are a few others I am sure.But of course you are right most can be
done with a metal vise. I would like to have a traditional over the
metal vise I have. But I compromised.
Not sure how the vise in your picture is built, but this link shows
more detail of the construction of a traditional tail vise and the
reason for the "L":
Remember you have PSI - or pounds per square inch.
The wide face provides low PSI and as you try to add more
you run the risk of breaking the screw.
I thought the table length vises were double screws.
On 4/7/2013 9:24 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
Well, yes, but... first, high clamping pressures aren't normally needed when
holding boards for
woodworking with either hand or power tools, and second, I'm not really all that
breaking a 1" diameter steel screw. I'm pretty sure the vise's mounting bolts
would rip out of
the benchtop first.
It is just a tool tray. This is a feature on many benches on one side. If
you add another top on the other side, then you have the split top bench.
Two problems with this though. 1) Those tool trays are shavings, sawdust,
junk collectors. I know I have one. You have to clean them out regularly
or parts, small tools etc get lost in there. 2) If you had a large project
on a split top bench, it could end covering up the tool tray. You would
then lose access to whatever was in there.
One feature that I have built into a number of benches, that I really like,
is a tool shelf UNDER the top. About 8 - 10 inches is tall enough. You can
put all kinds of things under there, access them immediately, and not have
it clutter or compromise the primary work surface.
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