Hmmm, a lot of the answers here leave me bemused. To clarify: I have a little
Electra Beckum over and under machine. So the knives are 260mm wide (just over
10 inches). And, you know, I never, ever find myself using the jointer for
anything wider than 2 inches, max. Usually 3/4' to 1 1/2". Anything wider that
needs flattening goes through the thicknesser on alternate runs until I have a
flat board with parallel surfaces.
The one thing I would wish for in a jointer is a long infeed and a long outfeed
table. Solid cast, preferably. The entire table on my Electra is around 3' and
I struggle with pieces over 6' long - entirely too many misses in getting a
straight edge; beyond 8' it gets to be a joke. That'd be the top of my list: a
nice long table, and 6" wide is fine by me, so long as I have access to a 10"
thicknesser as well.
I love my finishing planes but for joining boards, I prefer to use the machine.
If I had to join boards with handplanes, I'd likely give up building furniture!
Never tried the router method -- you've given me food for thought w.r.t. long
boards now :)
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I think the majority of posters will tell you to get an 8" jointer.
I only have a 6" jointer.. Then I realized that it was more than
adequate. Most of my boards don't need the face side joined. The planer
does a good enough job. I face joint so rarely that I don't mind
ripping the board down the middle to fit the jointer if I have to.
The only thing I'd suggest is to get a 6" jointer with a longer bed.
That has the advantage of letting you join longer pieces. In defense of
the 8" jointers, they generally have longer beds.
That's like asking should buy the Ford Escort or the Calidac Escalade.
There is alot of products price points in between.
DJ20's sound like a really nice product (I've never used one myself), but i
could not justify one hobbiest use. I upgraded from a smallish 6 to a
Yorkcraft YC8J; It was about $750 delivered, about 2 years ago. For
non-commercial use, I think the Griz and Yorkcraft products are a much more
You have not enjoyed working with really straight and flat stock until you
start by face jointing your own stock.
Assuming that you have a planer, start with rough stock. You will spend a
little more time on stock prep. but wou will save a bundle of money and have
better (straighter flatter) material.
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:34:00 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
My 2 cents - get a DJ-20.
I used to use a Craftsman 6" jointer/planer (as they called it.) For
me, it did everything a jointer had to do. Except is was too short.
Many times my projects have long parts, and the short beds of that 6"
machine just couldn't make 'em flat. The extra long beds of the DJ-20
are just the thing for that. Plus it just can't be stalled. The
motor is 220 vs 110 for that Craftsman. I really couldn't be happier
They make great stuff, but it's pretty expensive. Their imported line
is better, but compared to something like Grizzly its still quite a bit
As a Canuck, I really envy you guys the ability to buy tools from
Grizzly and Amazon.
I bought my 6" General last Christmas and I've really enjoyed having it. I
use it a lot more often than I thought I would, for small projects as well
I think there's no turning back for me. I've been "making do" for nearly
two decades, but now I'm committed to assembling what I think is a fully
equipped shop. One of the tools I'll have to wait for, but is high on my
priority list, is space.
I did the math on how much money I'd save buying rough cut lumber and using
the jointer to clean it up instead of paying the vendor. It will be many
many years before the jointer has paid for itself. That said, the quality
of my projects has gone up. So far it seems to be worth it.
- Owen -
Amen brother. I would have never anticipated the subtle but significant
quality improvements that result from really flat and square stock. The
only way to get that consistantly is to have freshly milled surfaces.
Consider the Grizzly 8" jointer. I have one and it replaced a Delta 6"
jointer. The parallelogram beds design make it easier to do adjusments. One
of the tallest fences on the market and at about 550 pounds is stable. Also
it has wheels. You just step on the front pivot arm and viola, it can be
moved. On sale till 9-2-06.
Today the 15" planer arrives. Another summer sale item till 9-2. I also
bought the framing nail gun 2 months ago and it works as advertised.
I wish I *could* buy that one. Unfortunately Grizzly won't ship to
Canada. (Some kind of deal with Busy Bee Tools, apparently.)
The closest equivalent available in Canada is the King KC-80FX, which
runs about $1074USD before shipping.
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