I bought a new 5 gal. pail of Thompsons the other day to finish my
deck, I opened it up and its milky! What gives my other (older) single gal
is clear fluid. The look of the pail is the same but the product seems to
Any ideas on this. I don't like the milky product, I tested it on a concrete
section of my patio and it is now blotchy. Yet a section of the patio done
with the older pail looks fine.
Take a look at the side of the 5 gallon pail. Look for a toll free
telephone number. Ask the kind person who answers why the product
is milky, and they'll be more than happy to answer your question.
Some unsolicited advice, try another brand. I used Thompsons several times
on my deck and found it not very durable. I had to reapply pretty much
every other year. The last stain I used was Cabot, which was much better.
I don't remember when I applied it, but it has been about 5 years and it
still looks better than the Thompson's did in 2.
OK, I will try the suggestions, but I know that the one that I bought was in
fact not a bad product, because I went to the store and opend another
container (1 gal) and it too was milky. Also, I am looking for a clear
liquid water proofer or sealer, not for wood or concrete but I used to use
the Thompsons for my pop up camper. It soaked right in and worked great for
5 years, its now time for another treatment but I sure don't want to spray
on a milky substance and I DON"T want to pay crazy money for "specialized"
treatment for canvas. Hell for 12 bucks I could treat my camper and my tents
and still have enough left over for any other camping gear that needed it.
Thu, Sep 21, 2006, 1:22am (EDT+4) firstname.lastname@example.org (Shopdog) doth mumble:
OK, I will try the suggestions, but I know that the one that I bought
was in fact not a bad product, <snip>
What you were "told" is that there are superior products to
Thopsons. There are several in fact. And call the 1-800 number like
your were also tols.
I am not paranoid. I do not "think" people are after me. I "know" damn
well they're after me.
I would also ask about their recommendations for use on a pop-up camper.
I assume you are going to use it on the canvas part. The old Thompson's
water seal was essentially paraffin dissolved in mineral spirits or
something similar. I don't know about the new type.
In my day, we tried to firePROOF canvas that we used over our heads, not
make a candle out of it with wax.
Maybe I'm out of my head with assumptions. It's one of my afflictions.
ok, I just got off the phone with Thompsons, I was told that in my region
due to EPA regs they are not allow to ship solvent based product. So, they
now make the water seal with a water base. It was always safe to use as the
solvent evaporated over a few days when it was solvent based and they say
that now since it is water based it is even more safe to use. Although, the
area to be treated MUST be completely moisture free.
As soon I started the conversation I was stopped in my tracks, the woman
said that everyone has been calling about the milky white product!
She was referring to the risk of fire and explosion when applying the
product. The old product was wax dissolved in a fammable solvent.
The new product is something (possibly wax and an emulsifier)
dissolved in a nonflammable solvent.
Unless the dissolved solids in the new product are non-combustable,
and I don't think that there are any noncombustable waxes, using it
on canvas will still increase the fire risk associated with the
aterial just as with the old product.
It may be possible to use the MSDS to deduce the material deposited
on the canvas.
Hmmm... a water based product to waterproof wood....
Sort of like "how do they get teflon to stick to the damn pan?
From the Thompsons site:
Apply by brush, roller, dipping, or sprayer. A garden "pump-up" style sprayer is
the simplest method. Product will appear milky white during application, but
will dry clear. If puddling of product occurs, remove within 15 minutes by
redistributing to dry areas or wiping off.
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