Granddaughter wants the bed I am building her to be red. I'd rather stain than paint. Any recommendations on getting to red using an oil-based stain? The material is two-bys in decent construction grade.
On Saturday, February 21, 2015 at 5:38:48 PM UTC-6, Gramps' shop wrote:
Red barn stain? I suppose there's an oil base blend. See if an outlet/store, near you, will wipe a sample onto your sample lumber. See if the coloring is appropriate.
Then top coat with a clear coat, if applicable?
How about using RED colorant that is used in cement.
Or having some clear to go over the stain with a squirt of so of
red from the paint (make my color) machine.
Seems like you could add color to any paint or stain.
Don't know if you thought of this or not, but
I spray shellac all the time and a little HLVP touch up gun from Harbor Freight does a very good job and is inexpensive.
I don't think I have ever seen a red oil based stain premixed.
I have however used red stains/milk paints that will let the grain show
through. but having said that I have not seen many stains on pine that
I like either....
These links go to what I have done with the red milk paint type stains.
From General Finishes
FWIW these are water based but don't raise the grain as badly as regular
water based products. AND all are sealed with an oil based gel varnish
by Old Masters.
On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 10:42:29 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
Pine needs to have a conditioner applied or it blotches badly. Conditioners are cheap and plentiful, and easy to apply.
One good example of an oil based premix:
Their "Crimson Fire" at the bottom of the color selects is pretty bright.
One should always seal stained wood with something. It has no abrasion resistance, little or nor moisture resistance, and no resistance to cleaners or solvents.
For a young'un I'd lean to paint, actually, as being more
durable and easier to touch up if it gets dinged (altho
that's more likely with a boy than a girl).
In any event, if you don't want to paint I'd suggest a
dye like Transfast. You can get some pretty vivid colors
that way, and the result still looks like wood (more or
less - a color that's not brownish looks a bit unnatural).
At one time Minwax would "custom mix" stains in various
bright colors (for use on electric guitars and similar
things), you could get an almost paint-like color that way.
As someone else said, you can get a "rustic red" stain
intended for barns, fences, and such like things.
Not sure about the oil part, but I would suggest looking into dyes.
You can get very, very bright red using dyes.
Here's a piece I did for a client in orange.
It's actually a bit more orange in person than the picture shows.
I've seen some red dyes that are very bold and bright, almost like a
paint, but with the wood grain showing through.
I'd suggest using a pre-stain conditioner on pine or it could get *very*
splotchy. You may want more than one application of conditioner, as
well. I did several tests on scraps of the same wood for this piece.
Dye is much more penetrating than stain so testing is kind of critical.
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
If you want something that's kinda more paint than stain, while still being
stain, Home Depot has a Behr deck stain that leaves the wood an almost
opaque red. It holds up very well in deck usage, but I can't say if it
would be appropriate for this application.
I've thinned colored oil based enamel with turpentine and used that as a stain on light wood. This works better on some species of wood than others. I got good results. You van put coats of clear varnish over this.
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