firstname.lastname@example.org (Doug Miller) wrote in
Heh. I'd be tempted to say the more questions you got right,
the less you actually know about glue :-)
That's got to be the most absurdly poor test I've ever seen.
Take question 20 - heating the glue line will not speed the
cure. That's false - gently heating an epoxy glue line will
definately speed the cure (it is, in fact, recommended practice
if the air temp is much below 60F).
Or take 28 - glues last forever, there's no shelf life. Again,
that's true for epoxy (per West System) and probably true for
dry hide glue.
Test Taking 101: Any t/f question stated as an absolute is false. This
applied in about 1/2 the questions. And it's a poorly designed website as I
could see the answer to the next question while viewing the current
questions answer without even scrolling down. Guess the designer wasn't
working on a large monitor..... jc
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:38:10 +0100, the opaque LRod
And disinformative, with an obvious bias against air-dried lumber.
I had to guess the answer to just 1 question (formaldehyde) but scored
only 22. I totally disagreed with 5 of their answers. Who wrote that
test, Vila? (Or some guy in a humidified shop with KD lumber, eh?)
Biscuits/dowels WILL increase edge-gluing strength.
Gluing PROPERLY air-dried lumber is fine. (I answered that one
correctly but disagreed with the text of the question there.)
MANY, MANY shops don't need to be humidified in winter.
Glue performance CAN be easily (failure) tested in the shop, but you
won't have the actual data gathered by a test facility.
Never attempt to traverse a chasm in two leaps
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:36:12 -0700, Larry Jaques
Well there's a novelty...
Multi-choice tests are a major factor in dumbing down _everything_, and
the software industry in particular.
You can't educate someone, then test this with a multi-choice test. All
you can do is train them to spot test answers, which is a much easier
and less useful achievement. The multi-choice approach tests _nothing_
in terms of any real understanding, or any ability to react in a useful
manenr to an unexpected situation.
However the testing is cheap, and it encourages 3rd party testing. It's
a great little business to offer, it's just not useful as an educational
The point is to pass the flunkies on their mandatory safety training so
they can clock in--whether they actually know anything about safe
workplace practices is purely a secondary consideration at best at that
This "quiz" seems to be a marketing thing from an adhesives seller.
There were, as some other folks have mentioned, some questions that were
very poorly worded.
"All glues are the same; they all work on wood" -- that's two unrelated
statements. And yes, all glues *do* work on wood, just some work very
"Yellow glue is strong-White glue is only used by schoolchildren" -- another
pair of not-really-connected statements.
"There is no glue like the old hide glue" -- well, that's true. They said
it's false because there ara other glues that hold stronger.
"Aliphatic glue is superior" -- to what?
"Water based glues are harmful because they will swell and twist wood" --
well, that depends on how much you use, what kind of wood, etc. The answer
uses weasel words: "most", "if".
"Thick glue is better and fills gaps and voids" -- two more unrelated
statements. Better for *what*?
After finding problems in 6 of the first 10 questions, I gave up.
Dave O'Heare, technical writer and pedant
If you're a writer working for such a company, the marketing
department, even if you're part of it, will do its level best to
pretend you don't exist. But you WILL be blamed for the screw-ups. Been
there. Done that.
I got through four or five questions and went elsewhere to read. It
seems impossible to teach companies that this kind of marketing effort
does more harm than good. It is astonishing when you realize that less
than an hour would have had to been added to the writer's workload to
make the test useful and fun.
Oddly, glue manufacturers in general do no subscribe to the "Glue
Starvation" Theory. Most indicate that you cannot clamp tight enough that
you would actually squeeze all the glue out of the joint. MHO "Glue
Starvation" is simply not having enough glue to cover the entire surface to
Yup, that's pretty much the story I got from the Franklin techs. Their
take on the "too much pressure" theory is that if you clamp so tightly
that you damage the wood fibers at the joint, a bond failure is really a
wood failure. Crushed wood will give way under load; not the chemical
bond of the glue to the wood.
Since I don't use a hydraulic press to clamp boards I doubt I've crushed
any wood to the point of joint failure.
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