Considering the interaction between steel and oak, the way it blackens
the wood, is there any concern about long term storage of steel and iron
tools in an oak tool chest? Since it's affecting the wood, I assume it's
affecting the metal in some way as well. I'm concerned about the tools
really, not the wood.
I'm going to start a new standing tool chest project, and have some
great looking white oak to do it in.
If however, there's an issue with the oak/steel interaction, I can go
with another wood.
| Considering the interaction between steel and oak, the way it blackens
| the wood, is there any concern about long term storage of steel and iron
| tools in an oak tool chest? Since it's affecting the wood, I assume it's
| affecting the metal in some way as well. I'm concerned about the tools
| really, not the wood.
| I'm going to start a new standing tool chest project, and have some
| great looking white oak to do it in.
| If however, there's an issue with the oak/steel interaction, I can go
| with another wood.
If moisture was present it could be a problem but sans moisture it shouldn't
be... or the precision tools in my father's approx. 55 year old Gerstner
tool box would be mess by now. http://www.gerstnerusa.com /
Silica gel and other things can be used to control moisture.
Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 1:56am (EST+5) email@example.com (DS) doth sayeth:
<snip> Any thoughts?
My old man kept his machinest tools in an oak tool chest, probably
for around 30+ years, with no problem. These were precision tools. The
drawers were ined with felt. I don't know if the felt was impregnated
with anything or not. I'd say ask on a metalworking newsgroup.
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No need to go to rec.crafts.metalworking...I've been using a Gerstner box
for 20+ years and my father used one for 40 years before that...the felt
that they put in the drawers is just felt with some glue on the back. Same
thing with Kennedy chests. Machinist chests, anyway...mechanics chests are
lined with rubber drawer liner stuff...kinda like router pads.
And if you have to ask what the difference is between a machinist chest and
a mechanics chest, you wouldn't understand. :>
Moleskin isn't a felt, it's a woven cotton with a raised nap on one
side. Feels like felt, but the fibres are different and it's woven
rather than felted (stuck together into an amorphous mat). Moleskin is
more like corduroy, except that real moleskin is harder to find.
Yes, but use liners to avoid contact and you'll be fine. There's no
risk of "vapours", it would need contact.
Mine use lime (basswood / linden) for any "racking" of tools, or
closed-cell polyethylene foam where it's a sheet.
Be wary of wool felt, as it's full of sulphur. Be wary of felts and
porous fabrics in general, if humidity is a problem for you.
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:54:57 -0800 (PST), Andy Dingley
A story relating to that comment.
Engineer in charge of packaging determines that money could be saved
by eliminating the sheet of vapor paper that is protecting the ground
surface on the top of a Unisaw. Instead of the vapor paper, a less
expensive sheet of mikelman coated corrugated (a sheet of corrugated
with a wax type moisture barrier on one side) would serve the purpose.
So we tried it on a sample pack. Table top coated with a rust
inhibitor/light grease mixture, then the sheet of coated corrugated,
then the regular box top, so two layers of corrugated and a rust
For shipment to the distribution center and storage they were stacked
two high, so we tested the pack in that manner. The wooden runners on
the mounting pallet were on the tabletop protected as described above.
Within a week there were two black stripes of corrosion on the ground
table where the runners were. The moisture/tannic acids went through
the corrugated and the rust inhibitor.
We went back to vapor paper.
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