Shop lighting?

[Silvan]

Gotta be careful with them swooshes too. My claymore is a POS, truth be known. One good swing, and the tang bent from the weight of the blade. I straightened it out, but I can never do more than wave it around gently.

It's a wall hanger. It makes people think I'm crazy though, which is useful. They leave you alone when they think you're crazy. ;)

I'm not crazy though. If I really *needed* a weapon, I'd go for my machete, or a baseball bat. Something I could wield with precision.

More than likely, I'd just run like hell though. I have everything to live for, and no intention of getting myself killed to try to prove how big my penis is.

[Blair Chesterton]

What is get out of the WV?

Blair

[Mark Jerde]

I have a Viking helmet complete with horns for the same purpose. I call it my "Technical Support Helmet." "YOU"RE SAYING OUR SOFTWARE MADE YOUR COMPUTER CRASH? WELL LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, YOU ..."

I'm 6'2", 250 lbs+, and until earlier this week had a 6 month beard. I trimmed it because a couple people said I looked "too dangerous." Of course, 900 years ago Norwegian ancestors of mine, travelling around in longboats, weren't all that easy to get along with...

-- Mark

[Silvan]

See, somebody understands me. :)

My ancestors weren't very easy to get along with either. Hadrian just walled off the whole damn country, rather than deal with them. :)

[Silvan]

Back ON topic for a moment... Go figure. :)

I have adequate light in my shop, but I could use more. I wouldn't mind having some extra heat right now either.

I was looking at various small halogen kits today. Some round, some rectangular, all running off of 12V transformers. I was thinking maybe put one of those over the table saw, one over the workbench, one in the dark back corner, etc., but I didn't get far enough to read how much wire runs between them and so forth.

Anyone have any thoughts on that? I like halogen light, but they get *hot*, and my whole shop from floor to ceiling is made out of wood and usually filled with dust. Is that something I should really think about?

Maybe go with regular incandescent clamp lamps or some such?

[Luigi Zanasi]

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:39:55 -0500, Silvan scribbled

According to my ancestors, yours were something like BAD: annoying painted little buggers. There was nothing worth conquering in that cold, damp place so my ancestors just walled them off the same way we, today, killfile idiots. :)

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[Larry Jaques]

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:18:09 -0500, Tom Watson brought forth from the murky depths:

With the circles and the arrows and the paragraph on the back of each one telling what each one was. McMines, anyone? (Apologies to Arlo)

...and a wee bit of a broooooogue.

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[Charlie Self]

Silvan asks:

Fluorescent where possible, incandescent as task lighting, IMO and IME.

Halogen is great for some task lighting, say on a drill press or lathe, but the bulbs do get hot. I've never had one give a problem, but...

The heat bit strikes 2 ways: it's useful now (I use some photofloods to aid natural heating sometimes, but in my shop, the electrical lines are a problem: both halogen and photofloods draw a lot of watts...500 to 600 watters per bulb for the floods, 500 to 1000 for the halogens). Come summer, the halogen is a horror in VA. Been there, done that (and probably will again).

Charlie Self

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[Charlie Self]

Blair Chesterton asks:

Where did you get the "the"? What does WV stand for in the list of U.S. states?

Think about it.

Charlie Self

"I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. " Ronald Reagan

[Dave L.]

Think about the 8' High Output Cold Start lamps. The bulbs are only $1 more then the 4' at Lowes. Yea the inital fixture price ($50) is more but you won't need as many. Get the tube covers too just in case of an accidental bumping with a piece of wood, etc.

[Silvan]

Yeah, there is that indeed. Though in summer there's more ambient light to use (with the doors open), so I might not need the supplemental lighting as much.

Anyway, another score is the fact that I have low ceilings and close quarters. I could actually burn myself pretty badly on a halogen light if I placed it poorly.

What about if I just get some wire, buy some lamp sockets, and dangle some bulbs here and there? Cheap is always good.

[Silvan]

Feh, you were just afraid of us because we tried to make you eat haggis.

[Mark]

If your going to put one you almost have to put two bulbs to reduce harsh shadows.

[Clemson Dave]

Lots of good stuff. I would only add, use 'designer white' florescent bulbs. They give off a more white light than standard bulbs. Same price. Lowe's sells them.

dave

[Blair Chesterton]

Didn't realize you were talking about where you live, being Canadian, I don't know all the abreviations and such for the States.

Blair

[Blair Chesterton]

Ok, as far as the lighting go's I have decided to go with three rows of seven (two bulb) fixtures and some task lighting where I need it. Now, another question I have is with my options for frost line insulation in the shop. I have the standard four foot fiberglass insulation and I am thinking of removing it because it looks like crap. I am looking for suggestions about replacement materials. I don't want to cut into the shop anymore than I have to so thickness is important.

Thanks again guys,

Blair

[Larry Jaques]

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:32:17 -0500, Silvan brought forth from the murky depths:

That's a felony in the USA now that the new HSA is in place. Just try it, fella. Just try it!

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[Silvan]

You mean the DHS?

Anyway, not likely. I suspect the reason *my* ancestors fled their homeland was to get away from haggis.

[Luigi Zanasi]

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:32:17 -0500, Silvan contended:

You are talking about the people who invented the vomitorium, ate raw octopus and sea urchins, whole songbirds (the tongues - should be tounges - were reserved for the sybaritic banquets), and garum (DAGS). Ackshally, YDNTDAGS.

innards and oatmeal - yummy. I actually really like haggis, having been subjected to it at numerous Robbie Burns nights, and I am sure my ancestors would also have relished it.

Now, if you had mentioned bagpipes . . .

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[Luigi Zanasi]

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:37:49 GMT, Larry Jaques scribbled

Luckily, I live in a still (relatively) free country, so I will once more be subjected to haggis and bagpipes come next January 25th.

OBWW: Ken Mulloy, who I consider to be my Yukon godfather, is a piper among his many other talents. About 10 years ago, he gave me an old ca. 1919 #7 for Christmas.

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