Semi OT-B&D profits way up

Mark Jerde asks:

We're on the Ohio River, so it was mixed. I seem to recall about 2/3 WV, the rest Ohio. The Ferrari was WV, and it wasn't the store manager--he'd get fired for parking that close to the store.

Charlie Self "Ambidextrous, adj.: Able to pick with equal skill a right-hand pocket or a left." Ambrose Bierce

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Charlie Self
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You must have been looking at the staff parking area :-)

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P©WÉ®T©©LMAN

I'm not sure what the median income is in the US, but for WalMart shoppers it is $50k+. They don't locate the stores in poor neighborhoods.

Of course it is possible that ALL the residents of Parkersburg drive that type of car. ;) Ed

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Edwin Pawlowski

I happen to know a good number of folks from Parkersburg (and am related to a number also). Only one of those drive one of the listed cars (mom and her caddy) and she refuses to shop at Walmart - too big for her.

Dave Hall

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David Hall

i beg of each and every one of you. if you are ever put in this position, do NOT do it. just smile and walk.

remember when you were told as a kid 'this will go down in your permanant record'? by now im sure you know what bull that was. the same goes with past employers. if your new employer knows you ate shit from your last employer guess what he expects? you're better off to look your next employer in the eye and say 'i was asked to train my foreign replacement and i refused'. you may not get that job, but it will save you lots of time. if the new boss doesnt like what you said, he was probably planning on screwing you. if he does, you may have found the right job. a company usually wants competent people and pays for them, or toadstools and pisses on them. dont be a toadstool. kissing too much ass in the interview simply sets you up to be kissing more ass for the next 10 years.

and right now, we got engineers kissing ass for mc jobs. and that isnt right. but ya know why that is? because too many engineers are WILLING to kiss ass for mc jobs. you dont need to be part of any official union to join the 'i wont work for peanuts' club. that extra week or two of pay you get training your replacement will be gone long before your self esteem returns.

one last myth to bust. your next employer really doesnt honestly expect you to have left on perfect terms with your last employer. i mean come on, you're looking for a new job. and if they do, trust me, you dont want to work there.

randy

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xrongor

Ed Pawlowski responds:

Never been to WV, have you?

Charlie Self "Ambidextrous, adj.: Able to pick with equal skill a right-hand pocket or a left." Ambrose Bierce

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Charlie Self

Dave Hall responds:

The point was not that P'burg has so many expensive cars--it has plenty of all kinds--but that it surprised me to see a discount merchandiser gets its customers from such an upscale area in such large numbers.

I'd guess that most Walmarts show the same scatter of high end weeeeeeeehicles. But I think it was probably the Ferrari that surprised me most, even though it was almost old enough to be an antique (and probably worth more than the day it was born). Targa, 1987? Not at all sure of that.

Charlie Self "Ambidextrous, adj.: Able to pick with equal skill a right-hand pocket or a left." Ambrose Bierce

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Charlie Self

Well, xrongor, I agree with you. Wholeheartedly.

I was on the fringe of those people and the replacements needed to interview me and others in my department, too. I am one of 5 ADABAS and Oracle DBAs.

I sort of, kind of did what you said except I did help at the barest minimum. I told the guy who was heading up the outsourcing project that I did not want to answer their questions. I told him I despise that company, I despise their mission statement (which can be summed up in a few words: "Rape the American, steal his job, and let him gnash his teeth on the street while he tries to find work."), and I certainly despise the people I would talk to becausethey are the ones who are doing it.

And I told him I would say it to the guy(s) who were coming. He said I need to do what I need to do.

When the guys came to me, they stuck their hands out to shake mine and I looked at them and shook my head "No." They were extremely surprised. Then I proceeded to tellthem I hated their comapny, its mission statement, and I truly had a severe dislike for them. I answered their questions truthfully but curtly. They sat with me for about 15 minutes--everybody else did what you said NOT to do and these guys were with them for at least 4 hours a piece. And they kept coming back to everybody...except me.

This all happened around July of last year. Now, everytime they see me in the ha;;, they almost run away. If they NEED to come and see me, it's like they crawl over. It sort of feels good but I am still so darn pissed the 30+ are gone--and several were very good friends of mine, including one of the guys that moved his family.

All I can say is I said what I said and I did what I did and I am still here, so there may be something in what you say!

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Ray Kinzler

You know, that was kinda my thought - if you refuse to train your replacement, what are they gonna do, fire you? Indeed, is the extra 2 weeks pay or whatever they may with hold, really worth it? Me, I'd say, screw (OWWR, sorta) you!

Renata

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Renata

With B&D this is kinda expected, as they're not a high end line. i.e. Folks buying B&D are more likely than not, looking at price first. WIth Delta, I repeat my query of why they'd want to move operations to a country with an established reputation (at the moment, anyway) for producing cheap crap.

Renata

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Renata

C'mon, you only see that kind of luxury in the _handicapped_ spaces. Up here you see Suburbans and Expeditions, or yesterday, a Hummer.

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George

Delta may be moving to Taiwan because Taiwan is producing good quality equipment. Remember, it is the company having the equipment manufactured that dictates quality. Today Jet gives Delta a good run for its money and the American built Delta Unisaws seem to not hold up as well in shipping as to the imports.

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Leon

Check out the BigLots parking lot some day (there is one in Marietta, don't know about P'burg). Also Gabriel's and Thrift stores. There often are reasons why these folks can drive Caddy's and such other than large salaries. Mom and Dad were both school teachers in an area (and an era) that paid such folks poorly and yet mom drives that Caddy now and we do have to worry about the estate tax. One reason is because they didn't shop at the high price stores and saved their money - a trait of that generation specifically and many middle class folks in smaller town areas. Mom still doesn't understand why you would use a paper towel to wipe up a spill when the dish cloth is right there on the sink and is "free" :) and I doubt that she considers WalMart a "discount" retailer, she would save that description for the BigLots and Gabriels of the world.

Dave Hall

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David Hall

Well, Parkersburg has both Big Lots and Gabriels. I checked out Gabriels a couple years ago. Enough was more than sufficient. Lotsa junk. Big Lots screws up and gets some half decent stuff from time to time (great for shop stereo systems). Now, if they'd just ditch tht J. VanDyke ad series...

Charlie Self "Property is not the sacred right. When a rich man becomes poor it is a misfortune, it is not a moral evil. When a poor man becomes destitute, it is a moral evil, teeming with consequences and injurious to society and morality." Lord Acton

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Charlie Self

George responds:

Huh? What does handicapped have to do with it?

Also, not so. None were in handicapped spaces.

Charlie Self "Property is not the sacred right. When a rich man becomes poor it is a misfortune, it is not a moral evil. When a poor man becomes destitute, it is a moral evil, teeming with consequences and injurious to society and morality." Lord Acton

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Charlie Self

Renata states:

"Property is not the sacred right. When a rich man becomes poor it is a misfortune, it is not a moral evil. When a poor man becomes destitute, it is a moral evil, teeming with consequences and injurious to society and morality." Lord Acton

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Charlie Self

B&D is the parent company of a number of brands, including some damn fine formerly Swiss.

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George

when i was in college i had a job at a godfathers pizza. but i never had to work the closing shift. on weekends i would be off and partying early. first one out the door. so finally somebody asked me how i got away with never closing. i asked that person if they were asked, in the interview, if they would close. they said 'ya they asked me that'. i said 'what did you say to that question'. they said 'i told them i would'. i simply told them 'i said no to that question and i dont have to close'.

randy

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xrongor

Based on personal experience w/ just a few (I didn't buy more based on said experience) of their tools, I'd lump DeWalt as a smidge better 'n B&D.

Latest - DeWalt/Emglo oiled compressor.

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couplers don't hold in the air (i.e. when I detatch the hose, all the air comes rushing out). Less than a year old, had one time of use

- when I built a 50' fence. Very occassional since then. This is a typical experience - some little nitpicking thing breaks, but it's a critical element to the tool.

And, the fact that they bought out Elu (Swiss), doesn't make thier Elu replacements the same quality as the original.

So, yeah, I can see the high quality coming out of Taiwan.

They had good ideas, but their execution of those ideas is lacking.

Renata

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Renata

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