Please when you start religious wars, keep crossposting to a minimum; how can you possibly think all those rec.* groups would be interested in the answer?
xanthian.
[And what language is "most useful" depends entirely on what tasks you want to do with it.]I did not see it listed but most of our machines are using English-just the regular type I guess. (Hope this helps!)
I sure hope no one there reads your postings, or that "professional" is going to be called into doubt.
Not one having to do with knowing spit about programming, obviously. Were you sleeping the day "Turing Complete Language" was whispered in class?
My how full of ourselves we are today.
I've seen, in use, an entire cartographic data application system software suite, written top to bottom in Forth; about twenty-five years ago, at that.
The language is hardly a toy, and has been the language of choice for certain astronomical applications (because that was its target application area) since its inception.
For photography they are all pretty much useless
I've come to the conclusion that the language used by all programmers is ---- profanity!
The best programming quote I know I heard from an IBM research chemist working on a terminal connected to a 360 somewhere out in IBM land.
He hit enter, waited a while, got a response and then said, "Damn computer keeps doing what I TELL it to do instead of what I WANT it to do!"
ARM
I vote for regular old C (the non++ version). You can d/l a free compiler from
Good Luck,
Charlie
If you learn C first, a number of habits may have to be unlearned in order to become a competent C++ or Java programmer later.
-- Joe Foster DC8s in Spaace: WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above They're coming to because my cats have apparently learned to type. take me away, ha ha!
Joe wrote: ) If you learn C first, a number of habits may have to be unlearned ) in order to become a competent C++ or Java programmer later.
I think you can substitute a lot of languages there.
If you learn BASIC first, ... competent C or Pascal programmer. '' assembly '' BASIC or Perl '' '' Pascal '' Lisp or Haskell '' '' Perl '' C or Java ''
IMO, a competent programmer has done one or more such transitions, and has therefore lost any bad habits associated with a perticular language.
SaSW, Willem
How about Forth?
I'll never forget the saying (apologies to the originator - I don't know who you are) "Forth is a recursive language. You can't understand Forth until you understand Forth."
Oooo! Amateur flames. We are _so_ impressed.
More than you.
Nope. Number of Turing Machines being used today: 0
Yup.
It's a useful language. Nothing more.
Kent wrote: ) Not one having to do with knowing spit about programming, ) obviously. Were you sleeping the day "Turing Complete ) Language" was whispered in class?
May I jump in with a mention of the (Turing complete) language 'Ook' ?
SaSW, Willem
No, you may not. 8-)
"Ook" is object-oriented K, a very advanced form of C?
Everett wrote: ) Willem writes: )> Kent wrote: )> ) Not one having to do with knowing spit about programming, )> ) obviously. Were you sleeping the day "Turing Complete )> ) Language" was whispered in class? )> )> May I jump in with a mention of the (Turing complete) language 'Ook' ? ) ) No, you may not. 8-) ) ) "Ook" is object-oriented K, a very advanced form of C?
Umm, no. 'Ook' is the sound an orang-utan makes. And it's a Turing-Complete language.
SaSW, Willem
In Japan, the foot can split wood. [yeeeee-aargh!] But you *can't* cut a watermelon with it! [yeeAAR!-splat]
*Complies?* More like he fires up his Skillsaw and says, "How about for $200 I let you leave?"
"Never bring a hammer to a sawfight." - Sean Connery in The Uncuttables
I had a friend who had been in the Swiss army, so I asked him how to use the can opener on my Swiss Army Knife. He said: well, they taught us how to kill people using the can opener, but we used our bayonettes to open cans.
David J. Littleboy Tokyo, Japan
You guys have WAY too much free time on your hands! :-)
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