I reserved the right to swear at him and you're criticizing me for it.
Isn't that admonishment a form of attempting to curtail my free speech
Like I said, you're trying to have it both ways. Don't you see that
point at all?
This is getting ridiculous. I'm done.
So wait, you're posting using both email@example.com AND firstname.lastname@example.org
addresses in the same thread? Why don't you make up your mind so we know who
the heck we're
What? I wasn't the one who told somebody to keep their "BIG MOUTH SHUT". I
out that yours was dirty; I never suggested you couldn't use it, or that'd I'd
punch you out
if you did.
No, I'm not, and no I don't. Don't *you* see that being a profane reactionary
might not be the best way to win over the hearts and minds of others?
"Our beer goes through thousands of quality Czechs every day."
(From a Shiner Bock billboard I saw in Austin some years ago)
You don't like my cursing and criticize it. I take that as an attempt
to curtail my free speech. You don't have to agree with it, you just
have to understand that's how I view it.
And, why would I care about winning over the minds of everybody? The
only people I care about are the people I respect, who respect me and
are my friends. We've earned each other's respect and there's never
any cursing or swearing between us because we're honest and
forthright with we have to say to each other. We don't have the need
to play little word games or try to play innocent in some matter.
It's like you telling me I have to act like a politician. They say
what they have to so they appear on the best light when most of us
know that every politician bends the truth to some degree. It's part
of the job. Maybe you consider that a jaded, cynical point of view,
again that's your option.
Fine, you don't agree with some (or all of what I have to say). That's
your choice, but please, give me that same choice too.
It does make one wonder what kind of item they would sell to promote
awareness of Prostate Cancer?
In addition, what does "Breast Cancer Awareness" have to do with anything
productive? Is there anyone in the country that is not "aware" of breast
cancer or its consequences?
I recall many years ago a group solicited millions for "AIDS Awareness."
They published a slim paperback volume and gave it away at bookstores across
Totally wasted endeavor - even a 1st grader knew the concepts behind that
which was published in the book. The project did, however, provide
(lucrative) employment to a few dozen people.
In my view, the goal should not be to make everyone (even more) AWARE of
breast cancer; the goal should be to CURE it!
Oh, by the way, the five-year survival rate after diagnosis of breast
U.S. - 83.9%
Canada - 82.5%
U.K. - 69.8%
This thread has slid out of control
We are talking about breast cancer here. Something I think we would be glad
to see be cured.
Just because someone doesn't contribute to a particular charity in a way
that you might doesn't mean they don't endorse the charity's goal or
mission. It also is not cool to swear at him, or to say I would never buy
that, donate to that, etc. What people do is there own business. And what
people donate or do not donate to is almost always is driven by very
As I mentioned I, like almost everyone after a certain age, have / had a
family member or close friend effected by cancer. I also, like everyone
else, get hit up by everyone for money. And like 99.9% of those that
frequent this group if I had lots of money, I would give away lots of
money - I don't so I have to choose my charity(s). That doesn't mean I
don't wish the (put your charity/cause here) the best of luck. When asked I
politely tell them that we are donating our money other places.
That being said about this whole pink hammer debate:
I live in the Boston area and there was a big breast cancer walk this past
weekend. Part of the story on the local news was that some survivors are
getting sick of the whole "pink" thing. They believe that some companies
are using only as a marketing ploy and you are better off to just donate to
the charity. Some companies may do that.
There are definately better ways to donate to a cause than buying a product
and having some % of the sale go to a cause. But, maybe some person is
going into ACE to buy a hammer that will only be used to hang a few pictures
they say "Hey I get a hammer I need and a buck goes to breast cancer
research" or maybe that person has a connection to the disease and just
feels better by buying that
hammer. The only one who knows is that person.
Also, after the purchase is a buck more than the breast cancer research
group had before he bought the
hammer. After being involved in fundraising for most of my adult life. The
"the big donations make the papers, the little ones make the difference" is
partly true. Although both are equally important.
Are pink hammers, football cleats, baseball bats, etc. going to help
increase awareness and raise more money to help cure this and hopefully /
eventually all cancers. I do not know, but those that deal with it everyday
seem to think so.
I do know that fighting about it will not.
I have a sorta woodworking question above. Lets deal with that.
This was a long post.
Yep. It isn't just companies seeking to cash on a polically correct
movement. It also scumbag profesional "fundraising" organizations that give
very little of the money they raise to the charities they supposedly
That said, If I want to donate $15 towards something I will do so directly.
Not buy a cheap tool.
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:52:35 -0400, "Larry C"
Maybe not. Most here are men and they are 6X more likely to get
prostate cancer than breast cancer. I guess men don't want to be
bothered with it, including my father but he died because the cancer
spread to his bones. Have you have your PSA test this year?
I was at Menards tonight, and they were selling pink tool sets "for
They had pink-handled screwdrivers, pink measuring tape, pink levels, etc.
Of course, I immediately
thought of this thread. There was no mention of breast cancer awareness.
Have a friend of mine whose father was a carpenter.
He made gifts for his daughters consisting of a pink wall plaque
holdong a pink handled claw hammer, pink handled pliers and a pink
handled screw driver.
This was at least 20 years ago.
Did each daughter get a plaque with a different tool (there's a nice harmony
My dad made ladybugs out of bowling ball halfs a year or two before he
He gave me a cheerful-looking one for Christmas. If he had given me a pink
I would have looked at him funny! ; )
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