New Jersey lawmakers are trying to ban metal bats, stating that they are
more dangerous than wooden bats. A child was struck by a ball hit off a
metal bat and is now in a coma. Now, I'm not trying to minimize what
happened to the child, but isn't this a bit too far? Its just another thing
that someone is trying to take from us. I was talking toour neighbor
yesterday about how the place has changed. He's well into his 70's and said
that if I were around back then I would be horrified of all the freedoms
we've lost over the past 50 years. I remember when I was in elem. school,
for show n tell I took 30.06 bullets, yes LIVE bullets. No one thought
anything of it. We used to take our guns to school for hunting afterwards
across the street! I used to ride in my parents cars IN the back windows!
Yes I know its all for safety, but its just another bit of life "THEY" take
away. If "they" stop telling us how to live safely then maybe we wouldn't
have to be building all these damn houses and projects and taking away all
Sorry had to rant. But there is wood content,, WOODEN BATS!!!
Anyone make they're own wooden bat?
I remember in the 6th grade a boy took his swing and let go of the bat. It
went right back at the catcher's face and the end of the bat went right into
one of his eyes (can't remember which eye), and he wore that black eye for
almost two weeks. The metal bat didn't do anything wrong, it is where on the
child's head the ball struck him.
I remeber riding in the back seat of he car unrestrained, but the cars were
cars then and not made out of plastic and fiberglass.
I also rmember taking the Mauser from WWII to school, kind of like show and
tell. No one thought a thing of it.
I am always referring to the "good old days" and someone quickly reminds me
that they weren't so good. Maybe not, but they were better than some we have
My turn, then ...
Bats shouldn't be made from anything but wood! Just compare the satisfying
sound of a wooden bat hitting a ball with the aggravating, metallic ping of
a metal bat.
The sound of an aluminum bat hitting a ball, akin to someone scraping
fingernails on a blackboard, is a crime against nature, Mom and Apple Pie,
and could only be enjoyed by some dufus who wears his baseball cap backwards
... indeed, there oughta be a law!
Now, someone else's turn ...
You get the swarmy, unsettling sound of PLASTIC!! It is similar to the
sound of your credit card going through the scanner, only much louder. What
could be more contemporary and american than that?
(I have had no experience with this bat.) The above remarks were my crude
attempt at a metaphor of some kind.
It should be pointed out that the above bat was primarily designed as a
serious, non-firearm weapon. As though the wooden and aluminum bats were
somehow or another inadequate in this respect.
Oh--BASEBALL bats. I thought at first that they were on about some kind of
Classic example of idiot legislators going after the wrong end of the
problem, probably because "if it only saves one life" and "for the children"
(two of the scariest phrases in the English language when uttered by a
politician) can be combined to get votes and banning aluminum bats is
The real problem seems to be that kids are more vulnerable than adults to
"commotio cordis", a condition where a light impact to the chest at just the
right time can induce fibrillation, and when they're tired from exercise
they beome even more so. Doesn't matter if it was an aluminum bat, a wooden
bat, or a thrown ball, if it hits at just the right time and in just hte
right place the kid goes down and if he doesn't get prompt and competent
help he stays down. 50 mph on a softball will do it for a healthy
adult--that doesn't take an aluminum bat.
What makes more sense to me is a triple strategy--teach the kids to protect
themselves--that's as simple as holding your gloved hand in front of your
chest when the ball is in play and you aren't actively in the process of
trying to catch it (not a problem for fielders IMO, the runner shouldn't be
square-on to the ball anyway so if I understand the mechanism correctly he's
less at risk); teach the coaches and officials to administer CPR to kids
and require that they have a current certificate in order to coach or
officiate; require that _somebody_ have an automatic defibrillator available
at each game--how this will be paid for and who's responsible is why the
legislators get paid the big bucks.
Tue, Oct 31, 2006, 10:35am (EST+5) email@example.com (Shopdog) doth wonder:
<snip> Now, I'm not trying to minimize what happened to the child, but
isn't this a bit too far? Its just another thing that someone is trying
to take from us. <snip>
Didn't you know? Being elected to "any" political office seemingly
immediately gives you two magical powers.
1. You think you are now intelligent,
2. You think you are now an expert on any subject.
Unfortunately any "honesty" and "common sense" powers are at the same
time taken away.
If it can't kill you, it ain't a sport.
My son has played organized baseball since he was 5 and he is 15 now
and everybody has always used a metal bat. They were just coming into
being when I was in Little League and have come a long way.
I remember when he was 9-years-old and I saw a somewhat smallish
10-year-old who wasnt all that good literally CRUSH a ball that almost
took off the pitchers head. It was then and there that I realized
something is way wrong with metal bats and it isn't the stupid "Ping!"
sound either. The ball was definitely coming off the bat harder and
faster than off a wooden bat.
I have done a lot of reseasrch and have come to realize that a metal
bat is supposed to do just that: Increase the speed the ball comes off
the bat and the distance. The way it does that is they have come out
with more and more metals that can be made into a bat with the walls
being thinner and thinner and more flexible. Inside the metal bat is a
bladder like in a football. This bladder contains various type of
pressurized gas. WHen the walls of the bat are flexed into the
bladder, the ball literlaly springs off the bat with ungodly power and
Colleges have been thinking about switching from metal bats to wooden
ones again as well. The metal bats, obviously, last a lot longer
because they rarely break. But when the players use a wooden bat for
the major league scouts, their balls fall 40-50-60+-feet shorter than
they normally would. This turns a player who is a home run hitter into
a hitter that hits long flyball outs. This proves the theory that a
ball is hit further with a metal bat than with a wooden bat.
Finally, I know it is harder for fielders, especially outfielders, to
play their position with metal bats because a dinky little pop to the
pitcher sounds the same as a double against the fence. Not that
somehting like that should make a difference but when a skinny little
kid can hit a ball a lot harder than he is supposed to, it gets
dangerous. And don't forget: 9- and 10-year-olds pitch from 48-feet
away and their reflexes are not nearly as developed as an older person
and if that skinny little kid hits a ball like a 16-year-old, don't you
think that puts the pitcher at a severe disadvantage?
I will get off my soapbox now...
If I ever get a surplus of time, I will write a book detailing all the
things that happened to me in elementary school. People think I make this
stuff up. They are horrified. And it was just a typical country school
where I grew up.
Example; If a ball went over the fence, we needed three guys to retrieve it.
Two to keep the angry, territorial bull distracted. And one to recover the
ball. Needless to say, the two bull distractors were are fastest runners.
And the reason we used two was if one fell down.
And the fact that almost no one at our school had money enough to wear those
fancy tennis shoes to play soccer. We just used our regular work/logging
> He's well into his 70's and said
> that if I were around back then I would be horrified of all the
> we've lost over the past 50 years. I remember when I was in elem.
> for show n tell I took 30.06 bullets, yes LIVE bullets. No one thought
> anything of it. We used to take our guns to school for hunting
> across the street!
At the end of WWII, when that 70's neighbor was maybe 10 years old,
there were less than 150 million people in the USA.
We just passed 300 million a few days ago.
The amount of land hasn't changed except when Alaska & Hawaii were
That land across the street where you used to hunt, probably has
houses on it today.
The point is that more people in the same space create more demanding
I'm with you, Lew.
I believe that there is a critical density of population that
describes the difference between living a decent life and not.
I have no backup for this, in a scientific sense, but it is a strong
feeling in me.
A strong feeling is usually a synthetic judgment about a condition.
It is not scientifically informed but it is the end result of your
experience in life.
There is perhaps a perfect density that describes the boundary between
the vibrance associated with a strong community vs. the dehumanizing
aspects of overcrowding.
I grew up in a small town that was the focal point of the surrounding
As you say, the places that I used to hunt and fish are now covered by
It seems far too urban to me.
New arrivals admire it for its rustification.
I believe that the Nation State took over from the City State concept
because of density.
Although it addressed volume - I do not think that the concept
addressed quality of life.
But, here we are.
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