There was some discussion on this topic a few months ago. Apparently Amazon
and a few other online sellers have some mad sales now and then. If you are
patient, you can get some major discounts now and then. It ain't a
conspiracy. It is standard operating procedure for some online gieants.
What Leon is saying is in your favor ... and a practical way to look at the
price. Considering that the biggest single improvement you can make to the
utility of a table saw is a good fence system, the Beis, an excellent fence,
makes your purchase particularly worthwhile at that price.
I Didnt mean to sound confrontational, it sounded more like he was
saying the saw was crap and most of the cost of the saw was in the
fence (though yes, the fence is vitally important). If I misunderstood
you Leon, I am sorry.
I do not think there is any need to defend the honor of a table saw LOL, or
to take swipes at someone else's tools. If this particular saw can be
delivered to the door for under $700 it is a tremendous value. As I said
before it is closer to a contractor saw than it is to a cabinet saw, but
IMHO it competes head to head with the high end contractor saws which are
excellent tools but cost $1000 + when equipped with a Beis fence. I think
there is a lot of bang for the buck when you can catch this saw on sale at
Amazon. If I had to pay full retail I would probably lean towards the
Grizzly Hybrid because I think the bang for the buck would be better there.
lol, Indeed I wasnt *defending* the honor of the table saw.
Especially since I haven't used it yet! :-)
Its just difficult to gauge the weight of someone's "reviews" on the
internet without knowing where they are coming from. Again, I really
wasnt trying to be confrontational - just wondering where Leon was
We can let that drop...
As for the saw - I am going to need a dado set and probably a new blade
yes? What should I be looking for? The freud website recommended thin
kerf blades for this "underpowered" saw. Is that the common consensus?
I just caught on to this deal on Amazon and started doing some research
on the saw. I currently run a Ryobi BT3100 with which I have been
realtively happy. However, it requires constant tinkering to keep in
alignment and seems to slow a little on some ripping operations
(admittedly could be the power at outlet as much as the saw - a problem
currently being addressed!)
In any event, I have been thinking about a cabinet saw (probably the
Griz 1023). Do you feel the 36-717 is enough of an upgrade on the
BT3100 that I would notice a lot of difference, or am i better to wait
and either get the Griz when I have the cash or maybe look for a used 2
or 3hp cabinet saw? At a hair less than 700 bucks, this sure seems
like a deal, but I have long ago learned that sometimes its worth
paying more for the right tool in the first place than going through a
series of upgrades. This is purely for hobby woodworking, maybe 10-15
bigger projects per year.
Thanks for the advice.
Something else to chew on. LOL..
I have owned a TS or two for almost 25 years. My first was a cast iron
table Craftsman with a "1" hp motor. Like most every one else I tried this
blade and that blade over and over. Basically, cheaper ones and mostly thin
kerf. Sill I continued to look for the better blade. This went on for
probably 7 or 8 years. Then one day while at my local resharpening shop I
inquired about who makes a good combination blade. I was handed a
Systematic combo with regular kerf and 50 teeth. I immediately questioned
if a regular kerf would be a wise choice. I was told that I would have to
push the wood a bit slower but I would be very happy with the blade. For
the next 9 or 10 years I was very happy with and only used that single
Cuts were very smooth, accurate, and flat. That "1" hp motor was not under
powered for that particular regular kerf blade.
Today I use a regular kerf Forrest WWII on a Jet cabinet saw.
Basically, if you buy a premium quality regular kerf blade it will last you
for many years and deliver better results than a thin kerf blade.
With your opening comment, Is the Delta Hybrid really bad? I thought you
may have been looking for possible problems that the saw may have. The saw
offers a darn good fence which will be beneficial when ripping boards. The
fence does not improve power, durability, crosscut accuracy, etc.
Based on the fact theat the Beis is "one" of the best fences that money can
buy. I seriousely doubt that this particular saw is the best that money can
No. If you buy an inexpensive new car and included in the price you get
front and rear spoilers. Does it handle any better?
I am just saying that half the money that you are spending on that saw is
probably going towards the fence. What the fence costs Delta makes no
difference since you cannot buy the saw for the same price Delta pays for
it. Just because Delta or B&D owns Biesemeyer this does not mean that Delta
does not pay Biesemeyer some mark up on cost. All things being equal, the
fence and saw are probably equal in cost to Delta.
If this saw will be an upgrade for you, you will probably initially be happy
with it. I used to be happy with my $375 saw with its added on $275 fence,
and then one day I was not.
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