I'm looking at buying a tablesaw, and I think I've settled on the
I've gotten a lot of positive reports about the 1023; does anyone who
owns one have anything negative to say about it? (Negative reports
aren't necessarily a dealbreaker, of course, but it's nice to be
forewarned about what could possibly go wrong and how to resolve those
I didn't like the power cord so I changed it. The switch could be bigger
too, but it is not a problem.
So many things COULD go wrong that it is impossible to list.
However, so far nothing has gone wrong. Why get the X? It doesn't seem to
offer anything extra in my view.
Yeah -- 7' rails + extension table + legs for $1125 (which is $230 more
than the cost of the SL with the 30" fence, which seems reasonable).
I suppose I could always get the 30" fence version, buy a longer fence,
(try to) sell the short fence on Ebay, and build my own extension table
and legs, but it hardly seems worth it for $230.
Roger L wrote:
I don't hate it, but if I had it to over again, I'd probably opt for
something different. I didn't get the extended rails as there is some
limitation I'm facing with room. So far, it's worked fine, but I'm not
really a Bies fan after using it. Wish I'd have gone with a Delta with a
wrote in message
I have had a 1023 for about 7 years; they may have improved in that length
of time, I don't know. I do know that I had to modify the miter gauge
because the table slots were like 1/8" deeper than specification, and I had
to machine parts of the miter gauge to get it to work. The fence they
supplied at that time was truly horrible (but by modifying it, I did get it
to work finally; I have since junked it and replaced the fence and rails
with a better setup). The motor winding recently shorted to the frame of
the motor and self-destructed--fortunately my setup was grounded as it
should be, or I probably would not be writing this message. Make SURE you
have a good ground!!! A new motor from Grizzly cost about $200 and did not
fit properly--I had to enlarge slots in the frame mounting and cut bits of
the cabinet away so that it would be possible to raise the blade to full
height. The capacitor covers were in the wrong place and interfered with
The saw cuts well and accurately and is easy to keep in adjustment. I have
done a lot of work with it and would continue to buy Grizzly stuff, mainly
because they keep the price down. But they don't have a lot of concern for
quality control. When I first complained 7 years ago about the table slots,
they said that they considered 1/8" close enough, but if I wanted to return
the table they would look around for one that was closer. My understanding
of the manufacturing system is that they churn out these machined castings
over in China or Taiwan, and then pick them over. The good ones go to the
better brands and cost more, and the poorer ones work their way to the
bottom of the heap and end up in identical-looking saws, shapers, planers
etc. that cost less money.
So no, I don't hate Grizzly. But I think you need to be prepared for some
surprises. Possibly they will be pleasant.
Yikes. 1/8" seems like a -lot-.
Well, I appreciate the feedback -- it's always nice to be prepared for
what could go wrong. But as you say, maybe some of the surprises will be
pleasant ones (particularly if I keep my expectations really, really low :-)
Darin in Minneapolis
It's a great saw. I love mine. You won't be disappointed. In my
opinion, outside of Powermatic or General, it is the saw to buy. And
even so, those other two saws aren't going to improve your woodworking
Mine arrived dead on accurate right out of the box without the
slightest ding from shipping. The fence was square to the tables, the
blade to the miter guages (0.0012"), and the measurable blade runout
was 0.0011". Now I definitely prefer the right tilt model, but that's
of course just my preference. The incremental $230 you're paying is a
resonable deal for the extension kit since the rails alone would run
you $187 if purchased separately. But I might be tempted to buy the
rails alone anyhow, and build an extension table that could also be
used as a router table. Just a thought.
I am very accustomed to Bies fences, and so the Shop Fox Classic is
right up my alley. I have no concerns with it except for perhaps the
flatness of the UHMW face which I have replaced with a mohogany strip.
I also was not a big fan of the supplied fence measuring tape, so I
replaced it with Starrett tape for about $6. Money well spent :)
Again, I couldn't be happier. It's a great machine that will last a
Have the right tilt version of the saw pictured in the Grizzly ad complete
with the extended rails and table top. My only complaint is that the
extended table top, as provided by Grizzly, precludes the use of the right
hand cast iron table extension (that was also provided with my 1023). Seems
to me, that the table extension would be better if it augmented that cast
iron extension rather than replacing it. The added weight and precision of
the machined iron table top would appears superior to one made of plywood
and Formica. Other than that, I love the saw and even the Shop Fox fence.
With the exception of minor problems with the packing of the extended rail
set, everything arrived in good shape and setup went well.
That was the case with the 1023 right tilt model at the time I ordered mine
in Fall 03. I had to purchase the extension table and longer rails as
options rather than part of a package. As a result, I ended up with the
right-hand cast iron extension, short and long rails, formica table
extension and TWO sets of support legs (one for the extension table and one
for the long rails).
Perhaps the right hand tilt model is now available in a package similar to
the one you're considering. In that case, I doubt that one would get the
right hand cast iron table extension, the short rails and the extra set of
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