Wood/coal stove & flue options...

My house has a chimeny breast that only goes up as far as the floor of the loft. I would like to install a woodburner stove in the lounge. I guess the easiest way to route the exhaust out of the building would be to have a steel flue liner going up the chimbey breast, continuing on up to the roof and out through the roof tiles. Is there some kind of kit that will make the construction of the roof outlet easy?

I once installed a combi boiler in a loft and it had a very convenient kit for anabling the flue to gou out through the roof. The outlet had a built- in flashing skirt, that was big enough to tuck under the tile above. There was thus very little work was involved.

Is there a similar item designed for enabling a 6" flue to go through a tiled roof? If so, do these have a name?

An alternative option would be to site the woodburner in the kitchen and have the flue going straight out through th wall. Is this OK to do? I've never seen it done before.

Thanks,

Al

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AL_n
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All the components are available to do either, just look at the website of any stove suplier/installer who sells the bits.

Going through your existing chimney is likely to be less expensive. Ours goes out through the wall and up the outside, and the cost of the necessart twin-wall insulated flue is astronomical.

This work needs to be signed off by Building Control, either via a specialist installer, of if doing it yourself, by a Building Notice. Approved document J gives the requirements for hearth design, ventilation, CO alarm, etc.

Cheers Richard

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geraldthehamster

yes.

yes. Dunno the name though. flue gasket maybe?

yes, that works too although its best to have a 45 deeree bend in it. Which makes the wall hole a bit of a bugger.

Modern double skinned insulated flues can go anywhere even through timber framing.

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The Natural Philosopher

I would hazard that you would need the same flue anyway at least to go through the roof.

Total install cost of a wood burner is anout £2.5k-£3k whatever you do these days.

Yes.

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The Natural Philosopher

harry wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@b11g2000vbz.googlegroups.com:

Al

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AL_n

Also check that you really need 6" and not 4" for the planned woodburner. Too big a flue can be as much a problem as too small. Pete

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Pete Shew

Pete Shew wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@brightview.co.uk:

That's an interesting point - thanks. I already have aload of 6" flue, which I was hoping to use. If the fire I obtain requires a 4" flue, I suppose that as lone as _some_ of the flue run is only 4" diameter, it will be OK, will it?

Al

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AL_n

Yes, you'd need twin-walled insulated for the loft bit, where the chimney isn't. But you'd save on the costs going up through the ground and first floor rooms - compare the prices of twin-walled flue, with simple flue liner for a chimney.

Ours cost just over 2k to get installed, going up to below ceiling height in single-wall, out through the wall via a 45 degree bend, then up to above the roof in twin-walled. Fortunately we are a bungalow with the first floor rooms in the roof... But we still needed 5 metres of twin-walled flue.

Saved a lot on the boiler itself by getting a 3 year old Much Wenlock via eBay.

It's in a large room onto which most other rooms, and the stair well, all open. It's not been severely cold since installation, but when we have used it the heat it kicked out was phenominal, heated the whole house up. Though it's possibly bad planning that the room directly above is the smaller, guest bedroom and not our master bedroom.

You should also budget for a wood shed, chain saw (with protective gear obviously), and a log splitter ;-)

Cheers Richard

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geraldthehamster

geraldthehamster wrote in news:863dfa92-4843-4e19- snipped-for-privacy@w28g2000yqw.googlegroups.com:

Thanks for the input. You mentioned 'boiler'; do you use that for central heating, or just for heating the domestic hot (tap) water?

Al

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AL_n

Sorry, that was a slip of the brain. It's not a boiler, it's a stove. Doesn't heat the water. My neighbour across the road has a much older Much Wenlock (Coalbrookdale rather than Aga) that also has a boiler and connects to his under floor heating.

My radiaitors run on a combi boiler fuelled by bottled gas. It was the amount of gas I had to buy last winter that prompted the stove.

Cheers Richard

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geraldthehamster

They'll learn. Or have a fireguard for really smll kids.

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Tim Watts

Bit drastic on a hot stove, they are well over 100C not nice to come into contact with. But yes they will learn.

Seems that some parents haven't heard of fire guards or educating their children about the dangers of hot objects be that a stove (kitchen or heating), open fires, gas fires, etc

I guess visiting kids may not have come across a hot heating stove or an open fire but then the house occupiers have a "duty of care".

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Dave Liquorice

I have a large foldable fireguard, clipped onto iron hooks in the wall - it gives 1' clearance around the fire on all sides.

I used it initially when my kids were smaller and I always use it if we have visting small kids.

Mine have been taught not to run in the kitchen where the fire is. These days, I no longer bother with the fireguard if it's just them because they have proven they're not stupid :)

They've also incurred trivial burns in the course of growing up on other things so they know what it's about...

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Tim Watts

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If you're not going to buy wood, then a certain amount of dedication is needed in sourcing supplies. Wood of one kind or another is often offered on Freecycle (sometimes in the form of furniture ;-) ), and asking around friends and neighbours can produce the odd pallet or six. Hardwood is better as it doesn't burn so quickly; a stove will happily eat softwood but you have to be realistic about how much you'll get through.

Possibly in a rural area getting known as the man with chainsaw will bring it requests for tree felling, shrub removal etc., though in our village that niche is already taken. I've been fortunate to make the acquaintance of a maker of chunky hardwood furniture, who is kind enough to let me trailer away his piles of offcuts. Also planning to plant a tiny ash coppice to supplement this.

In essence, you will need to get your wood scavenging head on. It's a way of life ;-)

I'm not reliant on the stove as we have the LPG boiler to fall back on, but I'm hoping to avoid using the latter as much as I can.

I haven't found the stove at all messy in use with timber, just a case of putting wood in it and emptying the ash pan from time to time. It would be a different matter with coal.

You'll need somewhere to store the wood as well. Lots of it.

Cheers Richard

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geraldthehamster

Yes. Our last house (with an open fire) used to get through a couple of lorry loads each winter. The wood-stove in this house is much more frugal, but we still need a specific shed to act as the wood-store.

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Martin Bonner

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