Wind turbines - can be DIY made?

Oct 04, 2006 484 Replies

The message from David Hansen contains these words:

Oh what a pompous and pretentious statement. Plenty is indeed greater than zero but then so is absolutely every measure of a positive quantity right down to the smallest single subatomic particle.

I don't know whether Ingham does act for anyone in the nuclear industry but appearing on Any Questions he would be voicing his own opinions. Claims of zero-carbon emission by the nuclear industry are no more dishonest than those relating to the wind industry. In both cases they should be qualified by the same explanation that the claim relates to the actual generation of electricity and not to the lifetime cost of the project.

No the implication was that the comparison favoured wind energy which is just not true.

In the medium term at least it is going to be more difficult to meet CO2 reduction targets if more nuclear isn't part of the equation. It is also going to be more expensive which adds to the likelihood of targets being missed if nuclear is ruled out.

If nuclear is to continue to play a useful role in electricity generation the new stations have to be put in hand very shortly otherwise the long rollout would see the UK short of energy by the time Sizewell B closes in 2015.

The message from Peter Parry contains these words:

Thanks for that Peter. I didn't think to look beyond the fact that this was another government institution.

Silly of me to overlook the role of Tony's Cronies in the governance of this country.

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:43:17 +0100 someone who may be Peter Parry wrote this:-

IIRC you have made similar accusations about the SDC before. If not it was someone else. They were unconvincing then and they remain unconvincing now.

People can check on the veracity of your assertions by looking at

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and deciding for themselves. The quick check is to study the commissioner who steers the work on energy, a director of AEA Technology plc
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idea that the rather mild SDC is a hotbed of people who would never give nuclear generated electricity a hearing is disproved by the simple expedient of reading their reports. Far from giving a simple "anti-nuclear" stance, as some assert, they outline the complexities of the discussion well. Sorry if this doesn't fit into sound bites. They also indicate the level of support for various propositions amongst the members when necessary, including their report on nuclear generation.

If you really think they are a hotbed of anti-nuclear zealots then take a look at

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and compare and contrast.

Two things to note about Nuclear Spin:

1) unlike their opponents, they are clear about who they are and who funds them. 2) unlike their opponents, they do let others have a say. For example the Sunday Times "cash for access" accusations against Ian Fells have been removed and they have put his explanation up for all to see, together with their own comments on it.

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is the Nuclear Spin page on Mr Fells. The accusations are at
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should anyone wish to read them.

These days it's *always* worth looking at the membership of these "Commissions", "Boards", "Institutes" and so on. The membership of The National Public Transport Operators Lobbying Group (aka "Transport

2000") makes amusing reading, too.

Not accusations, simply comments based upon a bit of research.

Feel free to point out the errors.

How many of the commissioners have a scientific or engineering background?

Where they will find exactly what I said.

All of which "impartially" conclude that nuclear is a bad idea.

They are far too experienced to put out a simple message - they include too many media spin specialists on the board. Of course they will put out a pile of verbiage - but it won't alter the preconceived message.

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