Who owns what?

[Martin Carroll]

I am in the process of doing up a Victorian terrace and one of the tasks is to repoint at the back of the house.

The layout is the classic Victorian l-shape :- _______ _______ _______ | | x| |y z| | | | x| |y z| | | | x| |y z| | | | x| |y z| | | |______x| |y____z| |_______ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | My | | | | House | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |_______________|______________|_______________|

Do I 'own' x & y or y & z?

If it is x & y then presumably I need permission from the owner next door to repoint wall 'z'.

Cheers

Martin

[ben]

[snipped a load of garbage]

Wanna draw a pic then upload it to a website if you have one?

[N Cook]

Don't know but for anyone else using OE viewing with a proportional font so a distorted ASCII image - try File / Properties / Message source to view in a fixed font

[Andy Hall]

Normally x & y unless there is something in the Land Registry information to the contrary

No, normally he is responsible for z but would come to you to ask for access to it for repair. Likewise you would ask the other neighbour for access to repair x.

[Andy Hall]

No need.

If you use a fixed font, it's perfectly readable.

[Grunff]

It's a fine ASCII drawing.

Because you can't be bothered to understand the concept of fixed width?

[Set Square]

Dunno. What do the deeds say?

Either way, if you want to re-point x, you'll need access to next door's garden - for which you will need permission!

[ben]

Set Square wrote: [snip]

Or in this case backyard? :-)

[Dave]

My deeds state that I can have access at 'all reasonable times' to maintain a wall like x.

Dave

[ben]

Cheers, if only other people where as helpful. :-)

[Grunff]

!!!

Says he who kicked off with "[snipped a load of garbage]".

[ben]

dispose of nff and put mpy in its place.

[Grunff]

ROFLMAO. Such wit. You crack me up.

[Rob Morley]

I think perhaps if you'd said "How do I view this diagram?" instead of "snipped a load of garbage" people might have been more likely to be helpful, rather than dismissing you as a fool.

[r.p.mcmurphy]

thanks for that, now i can see what he 's on about!

I'd just ask for thier permision anyway.

steve

[Dave Fawthrop]

| I am in the process of doing up a Victorian terrace and one of the tasks | is to repoint at the back of the house. | | The layout is the classic Victorian l-shape :- | _______ _______ _______ | | | x| |y z| | | | | x| |y z| | | | | x| |y z| | | | | x| |y z| | | | |______x| |y____z| |_______ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | My | | | | | House | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |_______________|______________|_______________| | | | Do I 'own' x & y or y & z? | | If it is x & y then presumably I need permission from the owner next | door to repoint wall 'z'.

The ASCII art is clear to me.

I once did a little work on a *very* old terrace house owned by a friend. She had agreement to go onto the neighbours land to clean windows etc. This is IMO probably enshrined in law somewhere.

People own the walls of your house, so IMO you own x and y but not z I would ask for permission for x and z.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Try switching to a fixed - not proportional - font on your newsreader. It looks fine here.

[Christian McArdle]

You own x & y.

You have a legal right to enter the property next door to maintain x, although you have a duty to do so reasonably. If your neighbours refuse, a court will grant an injunction allowing you to enter.

Your neighbour owns z.

Your neighbour, unless they are mentally defective, will be delighted to have you repoint their property, provided you DON'T USE CEMENT!!!!!

If you destroy a neighbour's wall using cement based mortar, you will probably be liable for the damage, which could run in thousands. If you are doing it yourself, then you can make up the right lime mix. If getting someone in, make sure they know about lime. You probably want a builder specialising in older properties.

Christian.

[Set Square]

I'm sure that an estate agent would describe it as a garden!

[Chris Bacon]

"x" and "y" are probably "yours", "z" probably next doors. You will have to arrange to do "x" by agreement with your L.H. neighbour. Your R.H. neighbour would probably be very pleased if you did a *good* job, but might turn very nasty if it was a bodge that damaged brickwork or let water in. What are you pointing with, BTW? How are you raking out the joints?