TV tuning problem

Live in North Wales and trying to get S4C ? the Welsh version of Ch annel 4 ? with subtitles as learning Welsh.

We can get S4C on the cheap and cheerful Bush TV recorder box but it doesn ?t do subtitles so I tried to get S4C on the TV itself ie using the TV?s own tuner. What?s puzzling is that despite the TV bei ng connected to the same aerial as the Bush box when you do an auto tune on the TV you don?t get S4C.

You get the opportunity to select UK when doing the tuning and at some poin t you can select Wales but no S4C.

Any ideas please?

Reply to
Murmansk
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Channel 4 ? with subtitles as learning Welsh.

n?t do subtitles so I tried to get S4C on the TV itself ie using th e TV?s own tuner. What?s puzzling is that despite the TV be ing connected to the same aerial as the Bush box when you do an auto tune o n the TV you don?t get S4C.

int you can select Wales but no S4C.

How old is the TV. All the channels were shifted recently to clear 4G and your TV may not be able to retune. Do you get any other channels?

Reply to
therustyone

All TV sets can receive the currently used channels except the DVB T2 ones which are mostly for HD. S4C is on PSB2 which is not a DVB T2 mux.

So having disposed of that red herring let us look at real possibilities. If the aerial is aligned on Winter Hill, as many N Wales aerials are, it will have only weak reception from Storeton and the various low powered relays in N Wales. Since TV and recorder tuners vary greatly in their ability to cope with such poor signals it's no surprise that one unit will work and one won't.

If you can be bothered align an aerial on Storeton or a relay.

Bill

Reply to
Bill Wright

Some TVs will let you scan a particular channel so if the TV allows that find out what channel S4C is broadcast on and then scan that.

Reply to
Michael Chare

Have a look at channels in the 800's or 900's region which is usually where sets dump other region weaker aliases of wanted channels.

Reply to
Martin Brown

I was under the impression all boxes did subtitles just as they do AD. I've yet to encounter on that did not. It might be hidden away, its truue. As for your other tv, that is a bit hard to say. All sorts of reasons could be in play here. Is s4c only hd? Brian

Reply to
Brian Gaff

I doubt this, as most tvs that still work on freeview will retune OK, unless the problem is that its being blasted by the 4G local signals and that multiplex is missing but if the chepo box can do it I'd hope the tv would also. Is the tv chained aerial wise through the box? Might be better to use a splitter and feed them seperately. Brian

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Brian Gaff

V being

Not a direct answer to your question, but S4C beta version of clic is very good for me:

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Subtitles in both English and Welsh, so ideal for a learner.

Pob lwc.

Reply to
Steve

V being

Not a direct answer to your question, but S4C beta version of clic is very good for me:

formatting link

Subtitles in both English and Welsh, so ideal for a learner.

Pob lwc.

Reply to
Steve

My local 'tier 2' library in Storrington, West Sussex has a 'teach yourself Welsh' book and CD set for loan. I guess lots of people in Sussex want to move somewhere where they will lose out on property inflation, pay higher council tax, and have a worse NHS, crap broadband and non-existant mobile phone reception too.

And if they live in South East Wales and want to start a business or place any adverts, they have to be bilingual despite the fact that more people in Cardiff speak Urdu or Farsi etc than Welsh.

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Andrew

I was working on a server in a hotel reception in Cardiff, and needed to borrow their cleaner's vacuum cleaner to avoid myself getting covered in the dust that has accumulated there.

So I chanced upon this pretty girl busy with such a hoover, and failed in all my communications attempt to let me borrow it.

The other staff laughed... "yup, the only language she understands is Welsh, she comes in from the outskirts of here."

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Adrian Caspersz

I grew up in the "outskirts" of Cardiff and I can assure you that you will rarely hear people speaking Welsh in South East Wales, even if they can. And now that property prices in Bristol have become as silly as London, there has been a huge influx of English speakers, buying property along the M4 corridor and commuting to Bristol every day.

She might have come from the Taffia region of Central or North East Wales, the underpopulated bits that voted for devolution.

Reply to
Andrew

Nonsense. There are no Welsh speakers (in Wales) who do not also speak English.

Reply to
Huge

Well, there's my dog. He's not a 'speaker', though.

Reply to
Steve

It is surprisingly bad in parts of Manchester and Salford too. A sidelobe of some aerials pointed at Winter Hill picks up the Welsh station loud and clear. It suddenly got a lot worse after D-day when the analogue was switched off and digital was on full power.

Some older dumber sets put first channel found in prime position which in Manchester means that autotune turns them all into Welsh if you allow it to run without unplugging the antenna while it scans up through the early frequencies with the Welsh multiplex on it.

Money for old rope for telly menders. I disabled notify and autotune on my parents to prevent this happening. Countdown would vanish otherwise.

Indeed although most modern ones filter based on your postcode now or strongest signal to prime spot (which is usually sensible).

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Martin Brown

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