My bungalow doesn't have a toilet vent. Other identical properties in the area do.
The position where the vent could have been is now a drain for the basin and bath, with the other properties don't seem to have.
Curious as to whether something wrong has been done in past modifications. The people before the folk we bought from were Italians and seemed to have done a few things like taking away purlin supports and opening up a room without consideration as to what was above it.
Thoughts?
You could fit an air admittance valve, but unless you have any problems (e.g. flushing loo pulls water out of bath/basin traps) don't think I'd bother ...
yip sounds like a DIY enthusiast ....tee hee
Italians, eh?
Bill
Even engineers do this :-)
I had an electrical engineer at work, tell a story at coffee time. He was telling us how he started sawing through the supports in a wall in his living room area, when "suddenly the ceiling started to sag". And when we said "oh, a load bearing wall", he said "is that what you call that?".
More than Italians are capable. It takes all kinds.
You would think an engineer. Oh, never mind.
Paul
He obviously wasn't a structural engineer - but there are other kinds.
The gentleman is one of a kind, and there is just no classification that fits. I could tell you stories. The original lateral thinker.
Paul
What does he mean by 'toilet vent' though ?. Does he mean the stack that extended through the loft and terminating at least NN cms above an opening window, has been removed ?, or does he mean there is no extractor fan/vent ??
I was watching one of those 'move to the sun' property programs on C4, and one of the couples had moved from Scotland to Italy to turn the (Italian) husbands old family house into a B&B. THe first guests were local and commented that the bathroom had no bidet. Husband grumbled and made some excuses. It seems bidets are very common in Italy.
I mean the pipe that goes from the toilet outlet at ground level up through the roof (soil stack?) that starlings like to nest in if you don't have a cover on it. Bear in mind this is a bungalow so the toilet is at ground floor and there are no higher feed ins.
I would imagine that the arrangement at my neighbourse would look something like the picture at:
I know 2 - materials and civil. They couldn't wire a plug between them.
OK, well in that case you need an air admittance valve instead, something like this
They are like 'ologists' then.
What does the toilet connect to ?
Was there ever an external hopper for bath+sink to drain into ?, like these on Cormaics 'new' website -
Not really.
The materials blagged his way into a university materials lab and worked as a lab technician for about 5 years. I was helping him apply for the same job again in another city (he doesn't have a computer. Neither can he use one) and as we went through the JD he cheerfully reminded me that he couldn't do any of it. Got a 2.1 in his degree. He calls himself 'an engineer'.
The other's a civil (chartered but now lapsed), and worked on construction projects for a few years. Again, 2.1. But left because he, in his own words, wasn't very good at it. Keep well clear of the bridges he built :-)
I have no doubt good ones exist btw :-)
I understand bidets are required by whatever building regs they have in Italy.
One thing you have to remember, is many people enter institutions of higher learning, with absolutely no interest whatsoever in what they're training in.
They see the salary numbers and that's all that enters their heads.
What I can't figure out, is why isn't everyone a lawyer ? :-) The salary is good. You get to douse yourself in cologne every day and smell like Old Spice.
Paul
I've taken photos of both immediate neighbours and mine. Seems as only one has a soil stack. I'm not sure how all this works and quite how I'd go about fitting an air admittance valve, or why I haven't got one.
In message snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal-september.org>, AnthonyL snipped-for-privacy@please.invalid writes
I have two:-) and a stack vent! Basically because there was a longish horizontal outfall run before reaching the vertical run. You don't want the toilet U bend sucked dry.
You could dog leg sideways to find a window free wall but soffit and sealing tiles a pain. I don't know how Building Control would view an external valve tucked under your soffit.
I would have thought that if two soil pipes go into the same inspection chamber (or whatever) only one needs a vent up in the air.
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