Thoughts on bathroom lights with integrated LED

[Caecilius]

I want to replace the old pendant fittings in my bathroom and downstairs toilet with something brighter and better looking. The ceiling locations are in zone 3 afaik.

I'm considering getting the lights with integrated LED like this one from Screwfix:

Sylvania starteco 24W 2050LM Zone 2 compliant

I'm a bit wary of integrated lamps and haven't used them before, but they claim a good light level (2050LM) and long life (30k hours).

Has anyone got any experience of these sorts of light fittings with integrated LED lamps?

[GB]

I have put some up. The first lot, from Amazon, half failed within a couple of months, and I returned the lot. The second lot, from a 'proper' supplier, have been up a year and are fine.

[Max Demian]

I've got ones in my bathroom and kitchen (replacing 2D florries) and they are yummy. They can be switched between warm and cool white. Probably a bit too bright for the toilet unless it is *very* big.

[Jeff Gaines]

I'm sorry but I have to ask, what exactly would be very big in a toilet to benefit from a very bright light :-)

[Caecilius]

Thanks. Hopefully I'll be OK with the sylvania branded light.

[Caecilius]

Good point about being too bright - 2050LM is between a 100W and 150W incandescent so yes probably a bit much for the downstairs toilet. I'll try one in the bathroom first I think.

[Andrew]

Pity. Chichester Homebase were flogging off those 2D bulbs, both

2 and 4 pin variants for peanuts a couple of weeks ago.

[GB]

I used these, which are half the price, but half the lumens, too:

IP20, but not bathroom rated AFAICS.

[Tricky Dicky]

I have a bathroom light not too dissimilar with integrated LEDs and frankly with an expected lifetime of 30,000 hours I cannot say I am too worried that the whole thing at some distant time might need replacing, I might be fed up looking at it by then and want to replace it anyway.

Richard

[Caecilius]

The light fitting is zone 3 so I should be OK with IP20. I see they also do a 24W version with 2140 LM. I've got a TLC near me so worth considering. Thanks.

[Owain Lastname]

I'd have thought a brighter light would be required if it was very small.

Owain

[Brian Gaff (Sofa]

So do you think that the first lot were forgeries or just a batch variation. Brian

[GB]

They look quite neat and unobtrusive when up. I have something similar to the Screwfix one, and the TLC ones look much better IMHO.

[John Rumm]

I used some smaller IP rated ones in a bathroom about three and a half years back. They have been fine, have a high output and are switchable in colour temp.

[Caecilius]

Update: I got this lamp from Wickes and installed it today. It's nice and bright, especially on the cool white setting. Wasn't too difficult to install - just needed to install a JB in the loft when I removed the old ceiling rose.

Time will tell, but so far I'm pretty happy with it.

[ARW]

The cool white on that is 4000K which works well IMHO in bathrooms and kitchens. Other cool white lights are often at 4500K and are a bit too much.

Enjoy.

[alan_m]

In a bathroom with toilet you need 10,000K so that you can spot the pee stains from misses or splash back :)

[Caecilius]

I use a 365nm UV torch (plus polycarbonate goggles just in case) to help spot stains while cleaning the bathroom. I find it's very useful.

It's actually only about 7,500K to get 365nm (Wien's law) :-)

[Max Demian]

I rented a place which had an unfashionable faun bathroom suite. Pee stains? What pee stains!

[Caecilius]

That would have probably looked like a murder scene with a UV torch though!