That Ladder Thing

Jun 09, 2006 26 Replies

someone posted awhile ago about how he shimmyed up a ladder in Buzz Aldrin style :-) well today I went up the ladder for the first time in 15 years...20' foot up...dang, like the record goes *rescue me,come on and rescue me* :-(


15 years ago wouldn't have been a problem I've even walked up the slope of a roof.

Theres no fool like an old fool. What a prattish thing to admit.

It's not something I'd do but Spouse has always done it.

I'm irrational about roofs, I'll walk up a roof equivalent slope on a hillside but not a roof. I'll stand on the edge of a kerb but not near the edge of a high building even when there's a wall between me and eternity.

Humans aren't rational, though ...

Mary

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The only pratt is the one who can't work out a humourous comment regards to a politician and an overhead live cable.

I will let people with brains judge the validity of your statement.

Roof, Incline, shoes, moss, no edge protection, slip, big bump on head or worse.

Less Sky installers then

Hill: incline, shoes (Spouse wears boots on roof), grass (no moss on our roof), no edge protection (gutter on roof), slip, broken leg. Or worse.

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|Mary Fisher wrote: | |> It's not something I'd do but Spouse has always done it. |>

|> I'm irrational about roofs, I'll walk up a roof equivalent slope on a |> hillside but not a roof. I'll stand on the edge of a kerb but not near the |> edge of a high building even when there's a wall between me and eternity. |>

|> Humans aren't rational, though ... |>

|> Mary |> >

| |Roof, Incline, shoes, moss, no edge protection, slip, big bump on head |or worse.

So what, on my standard walk round the local woods, I walk within inches of a cliff of equal height to a two stories. No fear, no problems. Why should I do any different on a roof. Trainers/boots/sandals all have sticky rubber, 45 degree, soles, on a roof, or a walk round the woods.

The message from Dave Fawthrop contains these words:

45 degrees is bloody steep. Apart from anything else it requires a coefficient of friction in excess of 1 to remain stationary. Normal mountaineering footwear is just not that good. Specialist rock boots just might be but it requires nerve to stand up in situations where by leaning forward just a little you can have a handhold but your feet will flirt off of you haven't a grip.

I can stand on my roof in the dry in summer but that is only 30 degrees of Yorkshire Stone Slates. My other roof (in Essex) is concrete tiles at

45 degrees and that is airy even on a roof ladder.

The problem is not the tiles or steepness of the slope its whether your confident of walking up the tiles ie if your bottle goes then fear sets in immediatly and this is where uneasiness happens or you freeze on the spot.

The message from Roger contains these words:

If it's got a hip, walk up that. It'll be shallower.

That's you. some people can do it, some can't. I couldn't, Spouse can and does.

45 degrees with a roof ladder is easy, I'd do that.

Mary

If your walking up tiles without either a scaffold or roof ladder then more fool the person who's doing that.

The message from "The3rd Earl Of Derby" contains these words:

You are welcome to try and walk up my 45 degree roof provided you undertake not to do so by sliding up tiles and standing on the lathes.

The message from "Mary Fisher" contains these words:

I take it he can walk on water as well. Standing on concrete tiles at 45 degrees in normal footwear is impossible however overconfident you may be.

Exposure is a funny thing. What may be ridiculously easy at ground level becomes progressively more intimidating as the immediate surroundings change from comfortable solidity to thin air and and the consequences of a fall change from perhaps a few bruises to certain death.

I am not exactly unfamiliar with dangerous exposure having been an adventurous hillwalker/crap climber/incompetent mountaineer for more years than I care to remember.

The message from Roger contains these words:

If gravity doesn't get you, that bloody emu will.

I used to work on the development of a certain military aircraft and had to stand on the taileron, which could park at about 45 degrees plus. The only footwear that I could find, that did not have me slipping was the Hi-Tec Silver Shadow trainers. They left the market for some time, but I have found them in Fareham market, Hampshire.

Dave

Why?

That'll teach you to do your job "proper" :)

Agreed, but even 90 deg with a ladder is "easy" provided the damn thing is secure!

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