Soak away and Planning Regs

Planning regs say that a soak away has to be 5 metres form the house but the front boundary is less than 5 metres from the house. Does that mean that planning wont be granted?

Kevin

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Zen83237
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Zen83237 coughed up some electrons that declared:

Building regs surely?...

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Tim S

Building regs, almost certainly, but the answer should still be "No".

Anyone living in that house should be pleased that "No" is the answer.

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Bruce

The soakaway does not have to be on your land. It can be in next door's garden as long as they consent to it and grant you (and future owners of your property) the legal rights to it. A specialist conveyancing lawyer would be able to advise.

Owain

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Owain

Planning regs can specify how surface water is disposed of, and if the drainage in an area is inadequate then planning can be refused.

Owain

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Owain

No. You need to talk to the BCO and architect and use a system that is specced for such: I have seen bloody great deep holes with some sort of porous rings lining it for 'close to the house' soakaways.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

I am not sure it works that way.

you can surely have planning permission for something without specifying te details of how its built. My sketches got planning permission: It was only later on that the details were drawn up to comply with building regulatons

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The Natural Philosopher

You may be able to get permission from the company who handles your sewage waste for you to discharge rain water into the sewage system. It depends if they think their system in that location can safely handle the volume from the surface area affected. This is routine in older urban areas where there's no space for soakaways and just one water disposal system. A friend who lives in a rural area got permission without any problems (much to my surprise).

If you do this, you will need to show a copy of the letter granting this permission to the BCO, and include the sewer modifications in your building regs application. You will also be charged for the rainwater disposal in your water bill (although it seems many people are already charged for this, even though they aren't doing so).

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Andrew Gabriel

That seems ridiculas then. At the moment the rain falls on my front garden and soaks into the ground that is closer to the house than 5 metre. I want to pave over the front garden and the soak away has to be more than 5 metres. So I leave it as it is and it is ok.

Kevin

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Zen83237

There is a big difference between water falling on the bare compared to water running on a paved patio. When the rain falls on the bare ground, it soaks through to find its own level and disperse slowly away. If a patio catches the water, if it not to a proper standard, it can lie against the building and other structures and cause rising damp and rot.

That is why drainage and structure are important in all things attached or built around your property. Drainage and sewage come under the water act, so need permission if changes are to be made.

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BigWallop

Well thats the way the building regulations work.

You can have a single glazed tar paper covered house and no one minds..until you do major work on it. At that point you had better do that work to the correct standards, or face a lot of trouble.

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The Natural Philosopher

The Natural Philosopher coughed up some electrons that declared:

Or learn to keep quiet ;->

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Tim S

But they catch you out with the introduction of "the seller has to have the property surveyed" not the buyer, now-a-days. Then you have to show that all installations have been carried out to the current requirements of the time.

OK if you know that you ain't gonna' move house again.

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BigWallop

BigWallop coughed up some electrons that declared:

Not actually the case. The HIP doesn't (yet) cover any of this. The buyer's solicitor may (probably will) ask for details of any Part P and Part L work undertaken. You are free to decline to answer. In practise, buyer's solicitors are easily pacified with the offer to buy indemnity insurance at around 100 quid (been down that road).

Cheers

Tim

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Tim S

A cautionary tale... my grandfather had a substantial T shaped house built in Cambridgeshire, sometime in the '30's. I don't know what the subsoils are (possibly chalk) but the surface is alluvial sand.

A local builder got the job and misread the plans with the result that the sink waste from the kitchen arrived at 90deg. to the inspection pit alignment. Rather than build an additional (brick) pit he simply installed a 90deg. bend part way along the route.

By the time my aunt inherited the place in 1950 it was impossible to open the bathroom window (metal frame Crittal). As an impoverished spinster teaching infants at the local school, my aunt had neither interest or funds to attempt repairs. Gradually it became apparent that one leg of the T was subsiding. Still nothing was done!

Eventually, my Aunt suffered a stroke and came to live at the farm, the house was sold. I kept in touch with the new owners who had immediately set about underpinning.

Apparently, the entire cause of the subsidence was damage to the 90deg. bend caused by over vigorous rodding. From memory, this would put kitchen dirty water into the ground less than 2m from the house foundation.

regards

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Tim Lamb

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