Just park it on the double yellow lines and let the owner pay the fines.
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5 years ago
So, these new MOTs ..
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5 years ago
Sorry for assuming you had been following the thread. My bad.
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5 years ago
FYPFY
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5 years ago
Ah - now I realise why you thought I'd altered that link on the 'level' thread. It's the sort of thing you do.
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5 years ago
At one time they did have their own fully trained experts which they could call out - at least in the Met area. But I've no doubt that would be an expensive luxury now.
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5 years ago
In pactice they normally don't, and just write a ticket.
NT
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5 years ago
And the garage pays the penalty? You're not thinking this through.
Evidence of an MOT fail, a dangerous notification where the driver can't drive it away. All the evidence would be the car was in possession of the car.
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5 years ago
not only would the garage pay the parking ticket, they'd get done for drivi ng a dangerous car on the road.
NT
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5 years ago
The registered keeper has to name the driver so he can pay the fine so he probably can't unless he sees the person drive the car.
Its quite common for the registered keeper to not name the driver, just look at how many celbs never drive their car!
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5 years ago
What makes you think they would need to drive it? Do they drive broken down cars?
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5 years ago
The links are there for all to see.
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5 years ago
Really? You are an expert on the law?
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5 years ago
^correction
And the registered keeper will say the garage had possession of the car, and he can explain why he couldn't drive it home.
If the car was parked around the corner from the garage, balance of probabilities would be on the garage.
Not really relevant in this case.
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Hardly broken down.
If that was the case, and no witness or admission it was driven, I can't see how there would be a successful prosecution for driving a dangerous car on the road.
I don't think this is a case where the registered keeper is even obliged to say who drove it? BICBW
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5 years ago
They SUE you for per day vehicle storage charges. When it's high enough and more than the vehicle is worth the high court bailiffs come knocking on your door for the rest of the money. If you have bought another car they will be happy to take that.
If this sort of thing happens lots are going to be signing up with parking eye.
The only way you can leave it there and not have to pay is with their agreement. And that would be on basis of you bringing the log book so it can be legally scraped as End Of Life vehicle or sold for repair. (bad brake balance is hardly worth scrapping a car for unless it's only worth £300)
It's your vehicle, you are responsible to getting it moved to a place of repair, back home or disposing of it in a responsible manner. If it's "dangerous" it can't be driven so that means on a trailer or beavertail.
I'm not sure about the legalities of towing dangerous vehicle with 2 wheels off the ground but towing with 4 wheels it's still an offense.
MOT place I'm going to be using is on private gated road. Same road has The Range and Wickes car parks off it so it can be relocated there legally. The Wickes car park is also used by the guy I use for welding.
But the fact is "dangerous" fails are quite rare.
Just remember if you have a LSD or 4wd with a viscous coupling they can't do roller brake testing. Makes it a lot harder to fail on brake testing. They will do roller test if you don't tell them. It overheats the plates and then the coupling don't work any more or makes expensive noises.
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I thought the consensus was this wasn't the case.
Except they may become more numerous, and for items that are borderline.
I know my testing station quite well. They also have parking that is not closed off at night. There is nothing stopping me going back outside of opening hours and collecting the vehicle.
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5 years ago
Even most of the dangerous faults would actually have little risk in the owner driving the vehicle carefully a couple of miles home - they have already driven it there without incident! The law may be a little too strict here. By all means ban the vehicle being used normally, but it is, in most cases, OTT to stop the vehicle being driven home and later driven to somewhere else for repair.
SteveW
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5 years ago
That is my take, especially when mechanical defects rarely lead to anything serious.
An annual driver test would have a greater effect on road safety.
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5 years ago
Nothing at all so long as you have paid for the MOT. They give you keys and fail sheet.
You tell them you will make arrangements for its removal.
They will be happy to see it gone in the morning
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A lot of mot fails are things that could in principle go wrong in some exce ptional circumstance. A lot of failed cars are safe in reality. When the UK sets up new rules, such as the MOT test, BR, etc, it does not set up a bal ance of power, and the rule makers are free to mission creep & wander ever further from reality. Classifying a car as dangerous because it doesn't mee t the latest strict emission test is one more example of this. Never mind t hat most particulates don't even come from engines of any sort.
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