Sacrilege

...and that's not taking into account that you have to spend the same=20 (assuming prices haven't gone up) for the next baby, and the next. I=20 spent less than 100 pounds when we started out with cloth nappies,=20 and when #4 was expected, we splurged and spent another 35ish. #5 is=20 now nearly a year old, the fourth baby to use those nappies. I doubt=20 if the running-costs of a washing-machine would bring that anywhere=20 near the cost of buying disposables for four children.

--=20 KVL

They all appeared in a report from one organisation in 1998. That report may have been repeating earlier "reports" from equally dubious sources. If you still feel they are "independent" feel free to name them. I don't believe anything from a commercial organisation run by politically active members of the Green (or any other) party can sensibly described as "independent" or unbiased.

And you are worried about the pollution caused by nappies?

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Have you found out what's causing it yet?

I dream of living in a place like that.

Agreed. If I ever happen to be listening to the Today programme these days, more than likely I will turn off because they wheel on another lobbyist who gives a completely one sided opinion and are not really given a hard time by the interviewer. The depressing thing is that it all works, gets the papers talking about whatever issue it is and then two weeks later you can hardly find a reference to it, but it's still being quoted as fact. I think it's encouraging that the internet is becoming a news source - you can find everything from loony to reasonable on most things.

Alistair

OK fair enough. Our experience lead us to think otherwise. The great thing about the net is that we can express the views. And let's keep choice available to people. If there really is an environmental cost to something, tax it appropriately so that people who want whatever it is (air travel,

them checked. Sadly this established method doesn't seem to be required in the green debates.

Good thread, isn't it!

I'm sure the RSPCA should be notified, how fast do you expect them to go while being towed?

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I can see his point though - they can be a bugger to start.

Dunno, but round here here are instructions at the sides of the roads to 'race horses for two miles' so I guess they can keep up with a 120mph jag, and need the encouragement :-)

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I saw one on the A5 the other day which clearly enjoyed the speed. The front windows of the trailer were open and the horse had its head stuck out, lips flapping in the 50mph breeze, apparently having a happy time.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember The Natural Philosopher saying something like:

I've noticed a lot of special school signs warning of 'slow children'. They're not that slow when it comes to leaping out of the way.

They all seem to get on buses going to Private. I've never been able to find out where that is.

I think it's near Not In Service

Not around_here_; but on the A27 dual carriageway between Fontwell (race track) and Chichester there are roadsigns that say (something like) 'No horse-drawn carriage racing!" ... or words to that effect .... ! The signs are ***** effective, 'cos I've never seen any horse-drawn carriages racing on that road!