Query: Legality of Electrical work

This is an ongoing problem, and one that results in much silliness. And it is so easy to fix, thats the thing. All one has to do is recognise the real range of relevant qualifications rather than just one. But as ever, stupidity prevails, especially when it comes to insurance.

Regards, NT

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N. Thornton
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What actually happens, is that the insurance company takes the business for one year on a particular set of conditions, the next year on the renewal invitation, some of the vital terms and conditions are changed. Unless you are addicted to reading the small print, as I have become, the insured frequently has moved to an uninsured state without their understanding this to be the case. This has happened to me 3 times in the past 3 years, all with different insurers and insurance products. It is even worse with paying by debit card systems, as the supplier is allowed to set up a debit for the next year without fresh authorisation from the customer. I have had to write to my bank specifying that this is not permitted on my account or the account will be immediately closed. Unfortunately, the requirement for an annual check could be inserted in the small print on a renewal invitation and with the cartels which operate in the insurance industry, you would find that you could not get cover without certification. What a thought!

Regards Capitol

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Capitol

While agreeing with your earlier points, this last bit is tosh. Every trade from glaziers to car mechanics is trying to find a health & safety or environmental pretext to ban DIY, and they're largely motivated by greed imho.

Reply to
Steve Walker

In one. You've got the cigar.

Reply to
Dave Plowman

Yes there is, it takes two years and is called a City & Guilds.

Reply to
Stephen Dawson

A nice little nugget

Regards, NT

Reply to
N. Thornton

For the purpose of a large number of things that are done in home environments, something much simpler than this would be perfectly adequate.

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Reply to
Andy Hall

Some of it is due to the DIYer not understanding the required standards that have to be worked to, would you accept someone making a TV programme with VHS gear with little or no understanding of shot composition and audio mixing IYSWIM ?

Reply to
Jerry.

It happens already - don't you watch TV?

I personally prefer not to watch such rubbish, but I don't want a law against it. That's the difference.

Reply to
Dave Plowman

You would if you were forced to watch it, someone moving into a bodged house or travelling in a bodged car [1] (for example) has to live with the consequences of those bodges if it all goes pear shaped - and very few TV programmes could kill you just by watching them IYSWIM.

[1] or even just passing by one
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Jerry.

Isn't there a rant a bit further upstream on this very topic - people suggesting that an average DIYer shouldn't be touching such stuff and it should all be handled by a 'professional'? I assume the C&G comment was serious and not 'tongue in cheek'. You might need a C&G qualification to tackle someone elses electrics, but that is a seperate issue.

Perhaps we should have a constitution like the US - with the right to bear hammer drills :-)

Cheers Dave R

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David W.E. Roberts

I don't think that is what's been said or implied, more like 'If you don't understand get a professional to do the work, don't just carry on regardless'. Some of the questions asked show how some really do just carry on regardless - even to the extent of blowing fuses and leaving the system in a worse state that it was before (we all know which thread I'm referring to).

You might not need a C&G qualification but you DO need to understand what such a course would teach those studying it (in relation to what you are doing) - if you don't, how do you know you have do the work correctly ?

But they have no right to kill with their gun, just as we have no right to kill with our hammer drills.....

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Jerry.

Well, given the standard of the average garage - main dealers included - and the prices they charge for bodging or not doing work charged for, and that's only in my limited experience, the day they make it illegal to work on your own car I think I'll emigrate. Of course, it would just prove my point. But if a trade is given a virtual monopoly through their own regulatory body, then that body in turn should be *tightly* regulated. Fat chance. From the medical profession through law to 'ordinary' trades they all look after those who pay their wages first.

You've not seen Family Affairs, then?

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Dave Plowman

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Jerry." saying something like:

I've seen Changing Rooms, thanks.

Reply to
Grimly Curmudgeon

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Hall saying something like:

Watching 'Brassed off Britain' the other night, I was reminded of how, some 20some years ago, 'The Guild of Master Craftsmen' approached me to register with them. At the time it cost some 20 quid a year to join and the only qualification/requirement was a cheque.

When I realised it was nothing more than a money-making scheme, I told them to get lost.

Now I see numerous other so-called trade bodies and guilds have sprung up, many of them at the same scam.

Reply to
Grimly Curmudgeon

I don't call that a programme, more like an excuses for wrecking other peoples houses (and or priceless collections) due to some idiot bimbo's ego trip !...

Reply to
Jerry.

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Jerry." saying something like:

Seeing the end results, I wouldn't fancy living in some of the rooms they've done.

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Grimly Curmudgeon

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