OT: Now we're terrified of nice weather!

Jul 16, 2022 Last reply: 4 years ago 97 Replies
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Thanks. Actually a search on WUWT brings up lots of information. (Click on the magnifying glass symbol a bit down from the top on the right, and in the search box that appears, type deaths due to cold). Some examples:

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Oh, we used to be two weeks early, due to the Leicester fortnight of all the textile factories, I thought after that more or less died-out they'd compromised and only shut one week earlier, sounds like not ...

Yes but. This is about climate *change* - not just heat. We may well have colder winters and hotter summers.

The globe has been warming for the last 15,000 years. Those statements by Met. Office people on TV along the lines that the last decade has seen three (or five or seven or whatever) of the hottest years on record could have been made at any time in that 15,000 year period, simply because the climate is warming. On average, every decade will be warmer than the previous one.

As for more people dying of cold than heat, there will be a null point somewhere along the line as the climate warms - the same numbers dying of cold as from heat - and beyond that the balance will change as fewer people die of cold but more die from heat.

The climate is warming. It goes in fits and starts. Fact.

What causes it is entirely another matter. The warming between 1910 and 1940 was statistically indistinguishable from that between 1970 and 2000. CO2 had nothing to do with either.

If you stand with one foot in a bucket of ice water and the other in a bucket of boiling water then on average he will be very comfortable.

Yes, well, possibly. The fact remains that if certain people aren't prepared for unfamiliar heat, they can die. Also, the UK's infrastructure isn't exactly a model of resilience, so breakages are even more likely. Nothing wrong with being warned about that. If some manage to overreact then hey.

A global consensus of leading scientists would disagree. You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but I'll stick with the science.

Yes.

Not necessarily, depends on how we change the way we do things with a lot more with aircons and decent well insulated houses.

Yes.

That is less clear.

We may well have almost anything. Climate is always changing. You can spot the fraud in ClimateChange™ when they spend their time convincing you that climate is changing, not that human beings are the cause, or its not actually a beneficial change .

If there's nothing that can be done, what is the point in warning us?

I read earlier today (but I haven't yet fact checked it) that their data gathering stations are largely based in cities and airports. If that's true the numbers will be skewed anyway.

Yes well its insurance and all that. However you should know that the UK is never ready for anything, Too much rain, wrong type of snow, leaves on the line etc. The big problem is we do not get enough of anything to trigger investment in protective measures. Brian

You can't be ready for snow here. In places where it gets quite cold such as Canada etc, you can clear the snow with a machine, and any remaining snow you can easily drive over without skidding too much; it's like sand at such low temps. Here, where the snow doesn't get cold enough, a bit of pressure lowers its melting point so that cars, trains, people on foot, skid on it easily. There agian if you only get snow every 5 years, who wants to fart about with snow tires? In Canad etc they just fit 'em as winter approaches, because there

*will* be 15ft of snow.

That is claimed by some. It's a possibility, I suppose. The argument is that when they were established, temperature monitoring stations were reasonably well away from populated areas, but towns and cities have expanded hugely over the last half-century or so, engulfing what were fairly isolated sites. Google for urban heat island if you want more.

There's not a global consensus. Many well-qualified scientists don't accept that CO2 is to blame.

Oh, so will I, just not the same science as yours.

In the US, it's been claimed that many of the "out in the sticks" weather stations which have daily observations going back a century or more are dropping off the list, and if replaced at all, are replaced by town/city based ones.

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They claim to have appropriate fiddle-factors which take those changes into account, where they're deciding whether the warming trends are real or have other explanations.

Winter tyres are mandatory in Quebec and BC, AFAIK.

Paul will confirm or correct me shortly

Many years ago i went to a hi-fi exhibition in London a man called Angus McKenzie a very good recordist had a master tape playing thru a Nak Tri-Tracer using Dolby -A processing, sounded amazing for the format involved!.

To be fair Cassettes and that 1 and 3/4 inch per sec didn't give you much in the way of HF headroom that 15 or 30 IPS could!...

Home recording on good quality tape using Dolby C was fine. It's the commercially produced pre-recorded tapes that were dreadful - and that's what "Musicassettes" are. They used the cheapest possible tape in shells with ropey mechanics. The tape would shed oxide and come off the leader tape. I don't suppose the duplicating machines were very well maintained, and often the master tape was deficient with noise to start off. Classical music was unnecessarily dynamically compressed.

I've got a good quality Marantz cassette deck but it has failed, probably due to failure of a drive belt. The mechanism is too compact for me to disassemble, and I don't suppose it would be easy to get hold of a working replacement.

Drive belts are a weak point in these things, as they are bound to perish eventually. I suspect such failure would finish off VCRs too. My turntable is a direct drive design so it should be all right. I bought a Sony Walkman a few years ago for £2.50 from a charity shop and the belt turned to black goo. I fitted a rubber band off a bunch of spring onions and it sort of works in a very wowee way, so I know it would work if I could get a replacement belt. I've got couple more cassette players of more recent vintage and they are still working.

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